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RuneSR2
Grand Champion
1 year ago

SubSide - the best ever underwater VR sim? Right now 98% positive ratings!

The trailer shows the game quite well, it is indeed very beautiful:

 

The game is here and supports native Oculus driver - SteamVR does not even start with a Meta hmd: 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2550040/Subside/

Recommended system requirements:

    • Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
    • Memory: 8 GB RAM
    • Graphics: Geforce RTX 2070 / Radeon RX 6800
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Storage: 10 GB available space
    • VR Support: SteamVR. Oculus Touch/Valve Index

I found performance to be similar to Kayak VR: Mirage. I tested the game using both Valve Index and Oculus Rift CV1 - and the game looks stunningly using both. If fact I do not notice much difference, the CV1 has much SDE with red colors, but not the blue and green, and Subside is mostly blue and green. I'd say this game is truly awesome with the Rift CV1, you're getting the full experience with CV1 and are not being left behind. 

I took a few screenshots - using about 27 million pixels per frame (Rift CV1 ss 2.5 or Index res 300%):

Here I'm standing on the seafloor looking up - you need to come up and breathe now and then - you can hear it on your heatbeat

 

Some nice textures - not truly 4K all of them, but they look great enough

 

Just to show some wood - which really looks like wood - poly levels are high

 

I'm actually not comfy floating here like live shark bait - and there are sharks in the water, pretty big ones too

 

Here's one, as I'm diving towards the bottom

 

Some interesting wrecks to explore

 

Note the great dynamic shadows here - of course, this is real PCVR

 

I guess this image kinda shows the great atmosphere - there's much life in the sea, and focus on exploring. To unlock new levels, you need to find certain items scattered all over the seafloor - or hidden in wrecks.

 

Here I'm finding a drive which suddenly lets me choose between day or night time - but not all levels have night mode

 

Is SubSide a game or a sim? A bit of both actually, the swimming and sea-life are very realistic, and you need to explore and find item to advance in the levels. You can find keys to sunken treasures too. 

SubSide nails what VR is about - creating a virtual reality, when the experience is so detailed that it may fool you brain into thinking everything is - kinda - real. I guess even SubSide will look dated in 2030, but for now it's one of the finest VR experiences you can get. And a perfect way to work with your thalassophobia, galeophobia, and other aquaphobias/hydrophobias 🤗 

Btw, right now SubSide has 98% postive ratings based on 109 ratings - so similar to Underdogs, and easily among the highest-rated VR experiences this year. SubSide is 10% off until September 24. 

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  • RuneSR2's avatar
    RuneSR2
    Grand Champion

    Beardo Benjo shows off the game using his Quest 3:

     

    I was going to tone down the presence of great whites a bit, as this may easily scare off many users. There are no great whites in the first 2 levels, but yes, you will be able to say hello to great whites and whales too. 

    SubSide probably will be beyond your wildest VR dreams, if you're into diving. And to me, having been traumatized by Jaws as a kid, SubSide really gets to me emotionally, lol. 

  • RuneSR2's avatar
    RuneSR2
    Grand Champion

    Found the canyon - this also shows how close SubSide is to Kayak VR: Mirage, which both have graphics on par with Alyx if not even better:

    I've got swim feet now and can move fast - as you find coins on the riverbed, these can be used to buy equipment

     

    The canyon waters are great - and there's a big fish too 🙂

     

    As said, you can buy equipment for the coins you find, and I finally got the torch:

    Remember not too look directly at the flame to not hurt your eyes 😎 😉

     

    New levels open up as you find new drives with new locations in the water. Even if you have not fully completed and found everything in a level, a voice will tell you when new locations are available - you can just exit your current level (your progress will then be saved) and go to the new location. Right now I have like 4 locations about 50% completed, and I can just go from one to the other with no issues. In the first level there are boxes I could not open without a torch - but having gotten the torch in level 4, I can now go back to let's say level 2 and open the boxes I could not open before, you constantly have all your equipment available. So new levels and new gear make it possible to go back and complete older levels - this way the game really opens up as you progress. 

    The experience works on several levels, for me especially psychological ones - like the fear of running out of air when taking a long dive in the deep caves:

    See the yellow rope at the bottom? You can follow that in the caves, but some tunnels are completely filled with water with no option to breathe, and here you many have to swim fast or wisely to survive. If you drown, you can just start from the beginning again - you don't lose any equipment or coins

     

    The fear of drowning is a powerful motivator in this game/sim. Then I have my fear of sharks and of the the very deep waters to work with, lol - but I got better - now I can even swim with sharks at night 😇

    Swimming with sharks at night - at the surface there are thunder and lighting, it's somehow more cosy at the bottom of the sea

     

    That said, I did get access to the great white shark cage diving location last night, but I was not really in the mood for that. Might grab a glass or two of red wine later this evening, before I go in the cage 🤔 😁

     

    Btw, you really cannot leave the water, so not easy to get a good shot of the water surface, but I did manage to take this screenshot to show the great quality of the water surface and waves:

    An image just to show the quality of the waves

     

    I've spent like 4 hours in the waters, and I'm still far from completing the game. I have access to 5 out of 8 locations now, but one is the shark cage I have not yet visited. I would not be surprised if it takes me about 15 hours to complete the game - but then you can always go back for a swim 🙂

    There are always great experiences to have, and last night I finally found out where this dude lives:

    The sea floor is big, and last night I finally located the moray eel - after having heard about it, but could not find it - sure it's not real, but that has some advantages too if you wanna get really close 🙂

  • RuneSR2's avatar
    RuneSR2
    Grand Champion

    UploadVR just published a short article about SubSide:

    https://www.uploadvr.com/subsides-steamvr-release-delivers-eye-watering-graphics/

    Quote: "Subside transitions from a promising demo to a fully realized VR experience that sets a new standard for underwater exploration. A2D’s creation is visually stunning and engaging, making it a testament to VR’s growing capability of blurring lines between virtual and real-world activities. If your PC meets the recommended specs, this game is a must-play, inviting you to dive deep into an exquisitely crafted underwater simulation."

  • RuneSR2's avatar
    RuneSR2
    Grand Champion

    I guess we all remember the cage diving scene in Jaws? 🤔 

     

    Yup, looks like soooo much fun, really hard to resist a jolly good great white sharky cage dive! 😰

    That said, I'm so proud of my progress in the galeophobia course 🤗 (galeophobia = fear of sharks). Today I - after having considered it for about a day -  went into the cage 🤗

    So far it has not spotted me

     

    Uh-on, but all my fault, I should not have overdosed my tuna-perfume 😬

     

    Kinda beautiful, note the scars on its skin

     

    It's really big - especially when you're there - in the cage - here I'm trying to scratch the goood Mr. Sharky behind the ear - or gills 🤔

     

    I guess beautiful friendships easily end when hunger strikes...

     

    I could swim out of the cage pretending that the shark isn't real and that it's all in my head 😁

     

    The Tooth-fairy might need some big coins if some of these teeth get lost 😎

     

    As stated, you can swim out of the cage, but as a clever dude once said:

     

    Btw, I did try to face my demons in South Africa, where I went cage diving with great whites several years ago - but VR kinda felt worse than the real thing, lol - also normal great whites usually are quite relaxed, not as aggressive as the big fellow in SubSide. That said, I did have a larger real great white bite the cage, but it only happened a few times during many hours. 

    In short, I'd say the experience in SubSide is very close to being there in real life, even if the shark is more aggressive in VR. Water clarity and view distance is also better than I had in the real-world, where often you only can see like 10 feet away in the murky water.

    You certainly get a great experience with the great white in SubSide. Cage diving with the great white was one of the most memorable experiences I've had in VR, and that says quite a lot. Surely, SubSide is not a 9/10, but a 10/10 - maybe even 11/10, but I need to get access to the whales first 🙂 

  • Do you happen to know if Subside is coming to the Meta Quest? 

    • TomCgcmfc's avatar
      TomCgcmfc
      MVP

      lenefa wrote:

      Do you happen to know if Subside is coming to the Meta Quest? 


      Because of the high graphics fidelity I doubt, but don't really know, if there will be a standalone Quest 2/3 version.  This app even works my rtx4090 quite a bit, lol!  I imagine, like Hubris, it could be done but not with the same high end graphics and dynamic shadowing.  Still, maybe something the developer will consider once the PC version is out of early access.

      • RuneSR2's avatar
        RuneSR2
        Grand Champion

        Dev (there's only one dev, so quite impressive) said he might be working on a PSVR2 version sometime in the future. I do not think this will ever come to the Quest. Like Kayak VR: Mirage, SubSide is about delivering true immersion, I bet the PS5 will be struggling with this game - and the PS5 is about 5 times faster than Quest 3. And RTX 4090 is about 8 times faster than PS5 🤓

    • RuneSR2's avatar
      RuneSR2
      Grand Champion

      If you want this level of immersion and realism, you need PCVR - but several say SubSide performs quite well even with slower rigs, so you do not need to rob a bank to play SubSide. I bet you'd get a great experience using let's say an RTX 3060/4060 Ti. 

      SubSide supports native Oculus drivers for optimal performance with Meta hmds. 

      • lenefa's avatar
        lenefa
        Explorer

        Exactly! I wouldn't mind subside with somewhat lower definition. I have a mac book, and really can't afford a pc system just to play VR. Don't even know where to start with the configurations but I'm sure its way over 1k. 

  • RuneSR2's avatar
    RuneSR2
    Grand Champion

    I have now, after 10 hours, more or less completed SubSide - but it's like a giant aquarium, and you can always go back for a swim. 

    I got access to the nice koi pool:

     

    Got new gloves and a watch showing how many seconds of air I've got left:

    I also got the jet pack, it's awesome - but was very expensive (50 gold coins, and you need to find them all, one at a time)

     

    Finally I got to swim with whales - this was a big moment for me, and if you have not tried SudSide it can be hard to imagine the fear of just being in the deep blue sea - one dude wrote this:

    swim with whales

    This game is top level VR game ! But for me who fear deep water, i cant stay in the whales environment because of the deep abyss below ! I really feel thrills looking down... My brain tell me to escape this situation quickly ! it's amazing to feel this in a VR game ! Even knowing its a simulation, i cant stay here ! All other maps are ok for me, i love to see all this fish, sharks and animals, but this abyssal blue below fear me a lot !

    Source: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2550040/discussions/0/4846526093721157172/

     

    - I know exactly how that dude feels - so I'm very proud of myself taking these shots, lol:

    Few VR experiences fool my brain like SubSide, but that's the greatest testament to the immersive power of VR when it's best.   

    • sallivan.2024's avatar
      sallivan.2024
      Explorer

      Awesome work and graphics! Gave a feel I'm in a real ocean with real sharks!

  • RuneSR2's avatar
    RuneSR2
    Grand Champion

    Yesterday I posted some screenshots on Reddit - and the feedback has been great - close to 100,000 views in a day:

     

    VR REDDIT

    https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/1fq23uo/subside_has_97_positive_ratings_on_steam_i_took_a/

     

    VALVE INDEX REDDIT

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/1fq16fm/comment/lp7ef92/?context=3

     

    So do visit Reddit for more info about SubSide - seems there are much more activity there than in here, sadly.

    Btw, devs did listen when I asked for an animated whale eye - and here it is - the whale will now look directly at you:

     

    - and I took a few more whale shots, not available in the collection I posted on Reddt:

    • MetaMetalMonke's avatar
      MetaMetalMonke
      Meta Quest Support

      We're gonna need a bigger 🛥

      Those are some Jawsome looking screenshots would love to try this experience out!

  • MetaNinjaTurtle's avatar
    MetaNinjaTurtle
    Meta Quest Support

    Hey lenefa 

    You can download the Steam platform online, here is a link on what steam games can run on the MacOS.

    -> Steam Mac Store

    -> Steam MacOS Games

    Depending on your mac's specifications and software version, there may be certain games you can and cannot play as your mac may not be able to support or run it.

    But hope this helps.

    • RuneSR2's avatar
      RuneSR2
      Grand Champion

      Having tested the game thoroughly, the new performance improvements are real and big. Before the patch, changing water transparency from High to Ultra carried a significant performance penalty, but now I'm getting same performance using Ultra as I got with High before - maybe even better. 

      If you know what to look for, Ultra looks a lot better than High - and finally I can now max out everything and get solid 80 fps in 80 Hz using Index res 250%. This is kinda optimal image quality with the Index, this game does not seem to benefit much from higher res, like Index res 400% (which I'll need a RTX 5090 for, lol).