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10 years ago

Old Tech Stories

I've happened to read a couple of posts about people reminiscing how they got started with computers way back. I'm talking DOS in the 80s and prior to that. I thought it was very interesting, I've heard many stories of punch cards and mainframes (I've actually worked at a company that made screen scraping software for 3270 and other mainframes alike) and I though it'd be cool to share some stories.

As for my story, it all started when my dad bought an Apple IIe when I was 6 or 7 years old. I remember trying to program a mini-putt game I had seen at an arcade (I should try to find the game now) but I think the farthest I got was drawing the outline or the course (I don't even know what that programming language was). I must have been about 10-11 years old at the time. I had a knack for math as a young child, my parent actually got me into Logo programming (remember the turtle?), my teacher had asked me to make a circle and I was making octagons... lol. Later on when we got our first IBM PC (386, 25MHz), I got into QBasic and GWBasic, I didn't even know you could make functions at the time. In my first year of high school (13 years old), I remember asking my computer teacher how to increment a value, before that, I would do y = x + 1, x = y or something stupid like that.

For me, the whole VR thing really started with 3D, my first encounter was with stereograms my family had discovered during a trip to Niagara Falls, they were the thing when they first came out, they were everywhere. I actually had found out how to make my own in QBasic, let's just say my software wasn't very fast or efficient, it would take about a minute to draw out a 200x150 pixels image. Today I'm a big fan of anything 3D, from movies to cameras to gaming, I used to own a few pairs of shutter glasses for PC gaming, I was really sad to see LCD monitors take the market as they weren't compatible with the glasses. I made sure to keep one old monitor around for gaming. Thanks NVidia for making the stereoscopic drivers!

Have fun guessing my age, that shouldn't be too hard.

Post your stories too, I wanna read them!

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  • Jose's avatar
    Jose
    Heroic Explorer
    When I was a teenager and new to building PCs, I was playing Counter-Strike and decided to change my GPU right in the middle of a match. Everything was plugged in and turned on when I opened the case and pulled out the ATi (probably an "All-in-wonder") card. Sparks started flying and the game froze. I'm glad I didn't shock myself.

    Another time I was trying to remove the metal covers from the 5.25" bays. They were attached to the case. Apparently you're supposed to use "snipper" tools to cut the parts where they're attached to the case. But I decided to use my hands instead and just wiggle them back and forth until the attachments snapped. I wiggled too hard and the cover broke free but then my thumb went right into the jagged metal part and it peeled a small chunk of my thumb skin back and I started bleeding everywhere. I think I was supposed to get a few stitches but I didn't. It took a while before the bleeding stopped and I still have the scar. It looks like a lump on my thumb.
  • Oh man, your story makes me cringe my teeth. I've got to say I also did take out an ISA card out of the motherboard while it was on, did that in my computer class, I don't remember if I told my teacher or not.But I don't know why, the computer didn't like it... :)

    But the metal shards part, ughhh... that's gotta hurt. I got slight cuts from cases too, but nothing of the sort. I'm so glad case manufacturers are being more careful now.
  • "teknix1" wrote:
    Have fun guessing my age, that shouldn't be too hard.

    I'm going to guess around 39.

    My father worked at CSIRO (australian science organisation) as a general laborer but was friends with all the computer guys, so when I was young we had a heap of scrapped stuff they didn't need anymore. We had a teletype for a while (rather pointless), a Texas Instruments Silent 700 thermal printer terminal (also pointless, it's a dumb terminal, I just played with it), a Rockwell AIM65 (this was a real 6502 based computer, but only had a 20 character 1 line led display), etc.

    (TI Silent 700 ASR)


    (AIM65)


    My first real consumer computer was a TRS-80 Colour Computer 2, when I was in grade 5 (about 11 years old). We couldn't afford games for it (computer was $200au, games were $80-$120 each) and all my friends had Commodore 64s (so I couldn't copy from them), so I learned to program instead. First Basic, then Logo, then Forth (those two cemented my love of stack based languages). In grade 8 I finally wrapped my head around assembly language, first for the 6502 family (friend's C64) then for the 6809 (my trs-80). Grade 10 I got an Amiga 500 and went crazy with languages. More assembly (68000 was so nice to code for), but most of my code was in C, E or Amos.
    Since then many more languages (more assembly: Z80, x86, arm), finally settling on C++, Lua and Ruby for 99% of my coding.

    For VR, I played the game Dactyl Nightmare when one of the units was on tour, many years ago. I can't remember much.
    I later played a VR shotgun shooting gallery game, but the controls sucked. Both the gun (a model shotgun) and the headset controlled your head orientation, they doubled up. I only played it once. I got 3d shutter glasses with my first geforce card, but they worked horribly (the lcd wasn't dark enough to block light, so I saw faded double images).

    Then back 5 years ago I bought the Vuzix Wrap1200VR headset and finally entered the home VR world! I tried playing halflife 2 for about 20 minutes, took them off and thought "well, that was a waste of over $900au". I pretty much didn't touch them again until the Oculus DK1 came out. I used the head tracking in the Vuzix to test my first DK1 program's camera system, while I waited months for my DK1 to ship. I wasn't a kickstarter, I had zero faith in Oculus doing anything good since Vuzix poisoned my opinion of VR. But the press was interesting. I waited until the sdk was made public, read it, wrote a DK1 demo with the Ogre 3D engine, got someone in america to test it, then ordered a DK1 the next day.
  • "kojack" wrote:
    "teknix1" wrote:
    Have fun guessing my age, that shouldn't be too hard.

    I'm going to guess around 39.


    Not bad, I'm 37! I'm going to guess you're just a few more than me.

    I don't think the Silent 700 could possibly look any older. I didn't grow up in a city and our Apple IIe was pretty much the pinnacle in terms of tech in our village. Actually it was pretty much the only tech the whole community had. That is until the NES came out. We never owned any machines with tape drives. I can only imagine how those worked, must have been a pain. Amazing how technology evolved in just a few decades. I hope you still have that AIM65, it's fetching some crazy prices on eBay.

    That's quite an impressive programming background you've got there. I only ever did assembler in Cégep (kind of like a college but not as reputable) and never had to touch it again afterwards. Now I'm all C# and Java working in a government town. I have never heard of E or Amos. As far as rare languages goes, I think the most obscure one I ever used was IBM Rexx. Actually might still be in use today but I don't know anyone who knows about it.

    So funny that you bought the Wrap1200VR, I forgot to mention that in my initial post. I bought the 920VR and thought the same as you. FOV was like 40 degrees if not less. Why do these lower end devices say things on the packaging like "Just like watching a 25 foot TV at a distance of 20 feet!"... such useless information.
  • "teknix1" wrote:
    Not bad, I'm 37! I'm going to guess you're just a few more than me.

    42. :)

    "teknix1" wrote:
    I hope you still have that AIM65, it's fetching some crazy prices on eBay.

    Sadly no, my parents threw it away.
    I've still got my trs-80 and amigas (500 and 1200).

    "teknix1" wrote:
    That's quite an impressive programming background you've got there. I only ever did assembler in Cégep (kind of like a college but not as reputable) and never had to touch it again afterwards. Now I'm all C# and Java working in a government town. I have never heard of E or Amos. As far as rare languages goes, I think the most obscure one I ever used was IBM Rexx. Actually might still be in use today but I don't know anyone who knows about it.

    Amos was a game oriented language and environment. Kind of like an early version of Unity. Very cool if you wanted to do graphics or games.
    Amiga E (different to E) is the first object oriented language I've used. It was made by Wouter van Oortmerssen (creator of the Cube and Sauerbraten game engines, Fisheye Quake and Pan Quake.

    "teknix1" wrote:
    So funny that you bought the Wrap1200VR, I forgot to mention that in my initial post. I bought the 920VR and thought the same as you. FOV was like 40 degrees if not less. Why do these lower end devices say things on the packaging like "Just like watching a 25 foot TV at a distance of 20 feet!"... such useless information.

    920VR was 32 degrees fov, 1200VR was 35 degrees. The big tv at a distance sounds better than the reality: it's like watching a 22" monitor from several feet away.
  • "teknix1" wrote:
    That's quite an impressive programming background you've got there. I only ever did assembler in Cégep (kind of like a college but not as reputable) and never had to touch it again afterwards. Now I'm all C# and Java working in a government town. I have never heard of E or Amos. As far as rare languages goes, I think the most obscure one I ever used was IBM Rexx. Actually might still be in use today but I don't know anyone who knows about it.


    E and AMOS are both Amiga languages, and the Amiga had ARexx as a standard system language, based on Rexx. Most Amiga programmers had at least heard of it. The Amiga User Interface Style Guide (I still have one) has an entire chapter dedicated to ARexx. Developers where encouraged to implement ARexx in their stuff.

    An IBM 5100 "portable" computer http://www.oldcomputers.net/ibm5100.html was the first one of two that I used, the other was an IBM mainframe (no idea now which one) using optical mark cards, like punch cards, only instead of a hole punched in the card, you make a black mark. Send in the cards, get a print out back a week later. Both of these where during my high school years. There where only three of these IBM 5100's in the education department of the entire state, the spent their time travelling between the schools. When one came to my school, only two of us knew what to do with it, both of us students. So it got locked in a room, and us two students got the keys. I learned APL on it, the other guy learned BASIC.

    It was "portable", but only just. I'm a tall guy, if I grabbed the handle firmly, and lean to one side, I could barely get it off the ground and stagger down the hallway with it.

    The rest of my computer career covers seven pages of my large resume, and includes somewhere between 60 and 100 languages, lots of them very obscure. These days I prefer assembler, C, and Lua.
  • obzen's avatar
    obzen
    Expert Protege
    I installed a stupid-rpm 60mm Delta Fan on a Athlon Thunderbird. Man, that thing was screaming.

    Don't remember any hilarious computer-related home fires or electrocutions. Must have been lucky (certainly wasn't by being clever or cautious).