Virtuix Omni - is this a joke??????

@zboson I've used the Wizdish quite a few times before. They are really fun, but like all those devices they just feel like you are ice skating instead of walking/running :)

@FrozenPea

I have not tried any VR treadmills yet. They don't feel natural. I guess it's a lot of money to pay for a ice skating simulator.  That's a bit disappointing.  Are there better solutions?

Where does your name FrozenPea come from?

@zboson I'm not sure if there are any better solutions you can currently buy. 

My name came from when I was like 15 playing an MMO game and couldn't think of a character name and so looked around for inspiration and saw my mum with a bag of frozen peas  :D Then it just kinda stuck because I thought it was funny!

Really annoyed with Virtuix on this one. It's not like the cost of international shipping suddenly changed. They were happy enough to use us as a cheap business loan, but as soon as it comes to actually delivering on their half of the deal, they back out and sign deals to sell in bulk (probably at a higher price) to US and Chinese distributors. Really unclassy. 3% interest is a very cheap loan.

Not convinced by the Rovr WizDish, looks like you need to hold on if you want to move or you'll fall over. The KAT thing looks interesting though.

Yeah you do really need to hold on with the WizDish, even getting into it feels unsafe. 

I saw a good article on them the other day though: http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/12/treadmills-to-endless-hallways-tech-has-some-sick-solutions-for-vr-nausea/

MrSpoony said:

Really annoyed with Virtuix on this one. It's not like the cost of international shipping suddenly changed. They were happy enough to use us as a cheap business loan, but as soon as it comes to actually delivering on their half of the deal, they back out and sign deals to sell in bulk (probably at a higher price) to US and Chinese distributors. Really unclassy. 3% interest is a very cheap loan.

Not convinced by the Rovr WizDish, looks like you need to hold on if you want to move or you'll fall over. The KAT thing looks interesting though.

I doubt they were deliberately deceitful. I think they are in a bad position also to have to refund so many people. It's harder than many think to run a business I think. Oculus made big mistakes when it launched the CV1. Personally, I hope Virtuix survives and are successful.

I think you're giving them too much credit. In my experience if something looks rotten, and smells rotten it probably is rotten regardless of what the label says. They have continually said that delivering to backers is their priority, now they won't deliver to people from abroad even if they give an american delivery address. 

MrSpoony said:

I think you're giving them too much credit. In my experience if something looks rotten, and smells rotten it probably is rotten regardless of what the label says. They have continually said that delivering to backers is their priority, now they won't deliver to people from abroad even if they give an american delivery address. 

You might be right. I think people (including myself) trust Kickstarter sales pitches too much. At least Oculus has been quite successful but they also broke many of their promises from Kickstarter.

I guess I mean I don't think they knew ahead of time they they could not deliver outside of the US or even suspected that. But that just means they should have though more carefully about what they could have achieved before they went to Kickstarter.

I'm not sure exactly how Kickstarter works but let's say Virtuix did this the traditional way and looked for outside private investors. Those seasoned investors would want to see a business plan and have it checked carefully by experts on the feasibility. Kinda of like a credit report. But If you go to Kickstarter you skip this audit and just have to convince the public. And the public in general is made up of morons who buy based mostly on emotions.

Unfortunately I agree with the article. I think the reduction in the customer base means less development of software and support which is a real shame. I think other designs will come along but this will really slow progress.