This corporation is getting ridiculous. Bring back Home Environments. Stop.

steve_40 I second that. How do the haters spend so much time complaining about something (going by some of the extreme examples they give) that they probably don't even own or never did.? 😁

Home Environments,

 These original Home Environments were extremely performant and not expensive to render in the slightest. They have very minimal, or basic prerendered animations and graphics. A lot of them have none at all. The only way these original Home Environments could be interpreted as "bloatware" is the size of them on the drive, but even that's a flawed argument because the user had full control over the Home Environments they did, and didn't want installed.

I believe 1 default home environment was forced into the Quests, about 300-500mb. Meanwhile, the new meta home environments are forced, have multiple interactable, actively rendered things, constantly. And just looks so lame. But hey you can always just avoid it by just looking at your lame IRL house through the cameras.

No, the new facebook horizons environments are probably not using 100% full tilt max resources. But they look dumb, have useless interactive things you could always do from the ui, and animations that add zero immersion or aesthetics. Fake people jumping around on an island? you're gonna call that immersive and aesthetic? I want an Arora borealis on my peaceful night winter dome with no advertisements for a garbage social app.  that's a big reason I bought the headsets. What the actual heck bro. And I think I speak for a lot of people that also don't want that.

 it blows my mind, why are you, a real human, right? just accepting this? I am absolutely not a hater. i freaking love playing vr on these things, but my god why must you remove cool things and break crap.. its unbelievable lmao, It's like a Monsanto article in the comments down there just glazing themselves and trying to invalidate opinions and grievances. I too have glazed and glazed this corporation for years but bro. what is this embarrassment genuinely.

it's funny, the old environments were accessible through a couple hidden loops in the helps and tips setting post update 81 for a little while, then they removed the "backdoor" immediately after when people made tutorials showing how to do it. "But they're adding more environments" They sacrificed every single environment they had and are replaced them with horizons slop branded geometry.

 I loved them bro. I am not a hater, I am a consumer. I bought this headset for every feature it had at the time, and when stuff like that gets removed, i don't have the same product I bought, built in software, or hardware alike. and i want to **bleep** this mindset in the bud of "they'll just accept whatever we remove and change and disallow no matter what even if its literally diabolical" "and I the consumer will always love any change they make" This is criticism about a controversial change.. Yes I was angry when I typed that, sure. But the points stand and I have good reason.

Link,

 Also Oculus Link needs an overhaul. The entire app is a buggy mess. It does not work consistently on my fathers pc, my old computer, or my entirely new pc. (Every part was replaced including the drives and board. they are completely separated rigs.) What else am I going to tell you except personal experience?

Maybe it's a coincidence, but the shear amount of people saying this identical grievance online makes me think otherwise. Some people genuinely have no issues, probably by a lack of interacting with any of the link app's ui or settings after initial setup. but probably just some unknown reason as a result of the poorly developed app. And yeah, ("a simple reboot") is something I have to do 3 times a night to get Link past the infinite loading screen or failure to connect screen.. I have troubleshooted for years ATP.

Ive been through multiple drives, multiple installations of windows, and multiple cables. even experimented with PCIE extensions. I'm currently using my pcvr kiwi cable now to just charge my headset and play wirelessly through virtual desktop, even though I didn't want to have to, A. spend 20 dollars more to play my hundreds of dollars in PCVR Oculus Link games, and B. I don't even want to play wirelessly! This sucks for high fidelity games! it's fine for bonelab like specifically, but only because theres no wiggling grass or many complex parts or clouds constantly moving and in your face, contrary to no mans sky, blade and sorcery, skyrim vr,  I'm sure the minecart part looks pretty bad on there..

but I just can't do it. after seeing link at its full potential, nothing competes graphically. the full FOV is impossible to stream like it is on Oculus Link. "It's a security issue if we allow this level of system access". You might as well ban any third party application if security is an issue. Malicious third party apps can ruin your headset. Give me a warning that straight up says "THIS CAN LITERALLY BRICK YOUR HEADSET FOREVER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS" and let me take a chance, it's my $$$ hardware, let me try sketchy crap. Someone could have made a functional, open source clone of Oculus Link with system access, but there wasn't even a chance. If you want a wired connection, you'll have to use an ethernet to USB cord directly from a router, route a second Lan port from the same router into your rig, then play through Virtual Desktop. A loophole, because it's technically not a wired connection according to Oculus. It still isn't as good as link is.

Anyways, Virtual Desktop is literally all there is. 'Immersed' wired mode seems in the same boat as ALVR's wired mode, multiple hoops to jump through for a simply functionally lacking, and poor PCVR experience. Any moderately fast movement, results in an immersion breaking black border covering the eye facing the direction of the turn for about 1/8th second (Yes, wired) I'm big on immersion, that was a no-go. i really am sorry to those who worked on it, they did what they could with what very restricted access they have.

 And even if I get Oculus Link initiated, I have to play either without audio or haptics most of the time. Just keep doing simple reboots guys, it will work eventually. Also Oculus prevents USB-to-Headset wired connections that aren't through Oculus Link by not allowing developers NEARLY the same system access Link does. 

  FWIW, I have no reason to fabricate crap about a company I loved, created content for, and was an active contributing member, especially financially, for years. This is just a grievance that really messes with me, and I think many others. Don't hesitate to comment your mind about this topic. "Well they do so much good stuff you're cherry picking bad things" Is a weak and horrendous argument. This is about LINK, and HOME ENVIRONMENTS. Two critical things in my opinion. that are simply replaced, gone and broken. I have no other place else to go to voice my opinion, I cannot contact support because they refused to accept my serial number on my Quest box, or headset. They now will not allow you to contact them unless you have a serial number. catch 22. headset was purchased through official means.

goodnight

This isn't a new issue, unfortunately. Just back up, factory reset and set a new password. It doesn't "ask you" to set a pass code on a grid pattern, it is one of the options, it's not necessary to actually do it. After you factory reset just use a standard password.