will leap motion and dk2 be a good combo ?leap motion released new software v2 so it getting mutch better now.thinking on buying leap motion before dk2 arrives. ?leap motion is only 80 bucks in the states 99 euro in europe

I don't think so. Both Leap and DK2 use infrared lights for tracking, and I'm afraid it will confuse Leap Motion, as ML doesn't like any environment infrared lights. Even in a totaly dark room it has many problems with tracking , because shiny surfaces reflect light from it's sensor. Trust me, don't waste 99 euros as I did. Add same more money and just take Razer Hydra.

"olixiolit" wrote:Add same more money and just take Razer Hydra. Hydra has disappeared from every store. Only place i found it was on ebay with huge price. :( Hopefully that means that there will be a hydra 2 in the near future.

forget the Leap Motion - dead system. it's great in theory, but they messed up their one shot and now lack funds to give it a real second effort.until there is a real pool of software for it don't buy one. and since pretty much all developers jumped ship by now there is no point buying.better wait for what Oculus will show in the future, try to get a used Hydra or invest in one of the kickstarted devices like STEM, PrioVR or the Magnum. My recommendation though is going with whatever Oculus will demo.

"IsoMacintosh" wrote:"olixiolit" wrote:Add same more money and just take Razer Hydra. Hydra has disappeared from every store. Only place i found it was on ebay with huge price. :( Hopefully that means that there will be a hydra 2 in the near future.the Hydra was developed by Sixense and produced by Razer, now Sixense has a new system called STEM that is basically a wireless Hydra. Pretty expensive though - too expensive to really see support I am afraid, but much cooler than Leap

Yeah, it's $220 in the Stem store for the base station and a single controller.They may be protecting the kickstarters with this initial pricing though.I supported the $299.99 5 tracker bundle which includes the base station ($99.99) two controllers ($119.99 each) and three STEM packs for generalized body tracking ($100 each).I feel these prices will drop after their intial product stock is sold, and we will see a much cheaper second gen once the company achieves a foothold in the market.Given the nature of the technology, and that the product is nearly shipping, I'm surprised this hardware is not getting more attention. It doesn't seem to have same accuracy, drift or latency issues of the PrioVR, and it doesn't require you put on a glove and body harnesses which is nice. It does have a restricted field of movement though, but I have a feeling nearly all VR is primarily going to be done on average within sitting space near a computer.

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ptom
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11 years ago
selkess, did they perchance mention whether they would have support for predictive modeling? The motion tracking on the Leap under their skeletal SDK is 4-6ms latency on average, but the rendering pipeline for the rest of the UI might be more than that - so it would need to be able to do a timewarp extrapolation similar to DK2 tracking in order to match the distance of that look-ahead, in order to create high-fidelity synchronicity (required for good proprioceptive presence, which goes beyond the standard VR presence in terms of immersion).

I'm planning on starting work on integration of the 2 SDKs in the next day or two, and if they're not already doing that I might have to fill in the blanks - if that happens I'll open it up in GitHub.
ptom
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11 years ago
Heard back from the Leap Motion folks - given that their sampling latency is so low in general this isn't something they implement right now, but if this is being integrated into a slower rendering pipeline it'll definitely make sense. I'll try out some different Kalman filter libraries and see where the break-even point is for time-to-calculate vs. time-to-render.
selkess
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11 years ago
no they just told me that both leap and dk2 is compatible and wanted me stay tuned for upcoming vr news from leap.
selkess
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11 years ago
new video shows dk2 working whit leap motion but no clue about if it works whit the pos camera. ?

but if it works its a cheap alternative to hand tracking .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJn5LhoxIdU
alexcolgan
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11 years ago
"selkess" wrote:
new video shows dk2 working whit leap motion but no clue about if it works whit the pos camera. ?

but if it works its a cheap alternative to hand tracking .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJn5LhoxIdU

Based on our experiences with the DK2, the Leap Motion Controller shouldn't cause any interference with positional tracking. In fact, there's at least one game in development, called Blast Buster, that's already using it successfully. Check it out: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3402

(Note that SxKx's issue with positional tracking, noted in that thread, is resolved in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=12003)

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