Do you have any feedback and/or issues in regards to the Meta Avatars SDK? Use this place to discuss, as we'll have members of the engineering team reviewing this thread! Read the blog on the Meta Avatars SDK here: https://developer.oculus.com/blog/meta-avatars-sdk-now-available/ Refer to the Meta Avatars SDK documentation here: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/meta-avatars-overview/

Hello mouse_bear Someone over on Oculus Start linked me here and I am glad as I do have some feedback but first, let me share that Meta is onto something big with the new Meta Avatars. My user testing with them was very positive. Users were absolutely delighted to see their own Meta Avatar and it made their immersion deeper. Way to go team Meta!!! Sadly it was not smooth sailing to implement and turns out that I cannot use them right now unfortunately. More on both below. End to End Tutorials and Videos:There is a big win for Meta and Developers in terms of Meta Avatars and the more apps that can adopt, the more it will make the entire platform feel more cohesive (like the Miis did on the Wii). I know you know this, but what you may not know is how much time developers are wasting right now due to a lack of a more direct explanation on how to implement Meta Avatars. Yes there is documentation but I and others I have spoken with, have spent many hours trying to figure it all out as not all was obvious. Thank goodness for the developer forums and the Oculus Start Discord. Thankfully I got it all sorted now, but that comes at a cost of wasted time and that impacts both of us. I spent many hours trying to figure out little things that are just not obvious in the documentation or even just absent. When I look back on what I have learned, I recognize one good tutorial would have cut it down from days to maybe 30 mins. Meta Avatars is that simple. This said, the trend these days is to not only provide the technical documentation like you have, but also videos with the developer(s) just casually walking you through setup, store deployment, avatar setup and testing (not just local avatar as that is far from custom Avatar in an app), common issues, limitations (like the lighting one below), troubleshooting tips, and best practices etc. These sorts of videos often get you up and running very quickly and allows you to get back to creating not trying to figure out why your avatar is blue. I am sorry to be negative here, but it really needs to be said that Meta should really consider stepping it up here as it is a win win for both Meta and devs who are working hard to bring content to the platform. Delays due to documentation gaps affect both of us. I highly recommend asking someone around the office who knows little to nothing about the Meta Avatars and have them try and implement it in Unity and elsewhere as it will provide many insights as to the gaps in the documentation and as well as input for your videos. If the Meta team would like to reach out to me for more feedback, I welcome it. Realtime Spot and Point of Light Support:I managed to get the Meta Avatars working end to end with a users custom avatar, but due to the additive/async scene load nature of my title, I cannot use light probes and thus I cannot light the Meta Avatar with anything other than a real time Directional light which just looks so flat and out of sync with the rest of the realtime lights. With this said, I am requesting real time shaders, preferably URP Lit or Simple Lit, be added to the Meta Avatar shaders for those of us who prefer real time lights and/or cannot use light probes. I know Meta does not recommend many realtime lights due to the hardware of the Quest, but with clever optimization, you really can have them...and a lot of them. There are over 100 realtime lights in my ride so far and as you can see if you try it yourself, they make things look very real as compared to light probes. Just look at the seat you are in and how the light and shadows interact especially in that loading area going under all the spotlights. It really adds to the immersion of my title and I am sure others. Thanks for reading my feedback and I look forward to improvements over the coming months. Ideally, realtime spot and point lights will be working with the Meta Avatars before I have completed my ride over the next year. LOVE to hear back from you on the priority of this request. My title https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/4212005182188732/ Edited to remove some of my frustration that was coming through. 🙂

6000 yes. Ran on PC. Running on Play->PC - yes. Building for Android now.Load up the SampleAvatarSDK in the editor and set the breakpoints where I have in the attached picture.If you only hit the last one, then USING_XR_SDK was not seen. Make sure you have it in the Windows AND Android 'other' settings.If you are hitting the 1st breakpoint, then hit continue and when you get to the 2nd breakpoint check the contents of the _UserID variable, it should be zero. If not, it thinks you want local avatars. Then go step by step, and see if the load if failing. If it is, Unity+meta thinks your API key settings are not correct.Looking forward to hearing and helping more.

Android build just finished. It is also working on Oculus.If not for you, you are not abandoned. I would love to see if I can help.

I wrote a free asset on the Unity asset store (it is a lot of code) to try to help others with.(I think this is the url) https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/templates/packs/simple-movement-kit-and-animation-helper-291684--I still have problems with it.-- In windows standalone some controlls backwards, except when you use the x-box controller, then go link with the Oculus and maybe it corrects the reverse controls. I am still tying to figure out why +x is not +x on all input devices.It might help you. Feel free to ask me if you have questions. (I get $0.00 for it, I do it for the fun of it).

However the avatar is 180° backward like it used to be.

Meta Avatars SDK (Feedback/Issues)

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OdontMast
Start Partner
1 year ago
Is it possible to include an editor to create a new Meta Avatar in the app? We want the user to be able to make custom avatars for their NPCs.
james.briggs.7311
Explorer
1 year ago
Heya!

It seems like the meta avatar sdk package for unity is missing some assets that make it unusable. Following the official meta project config documentation and v 29 update guide on a fresh project leads to errors and a lot of the assets that the documentation talks about, like scenes or most importantly the avatar manager prefab that has the shaders on it, are completely missing from the packages so it's impossible to get working at all. Unless there's some third secret package containing this stuff, it's currently impossible to implement meta avatars. This is with meta avatar SDK unity package installed and the sample assets package as well
- RiverExplorer
  Start Partner
  1 year ago
  If this guess helps:
  I am at .2 and I found that for some random reason and clearly untested reason, they had moved some of the needed and documented assets into samples. I had to load many of the samples to get the assets that were required and described in the documentation. A while back it included the OVRCamera.
  In a couple of cases I found, by trial and error, that they seemed to have deprecated an asset, moved it into samples, and created a new one with a similar name. One was something like ..managerhorizen... to ...managermeta... , but I can't remember exactly the name. And I think both are now in a sample.
  NOTE: The eye gaze sample broke more, so you might want to skip that one.
  They clearly think that documentation is not important.
joebrown.868167
Honored Guest
1 year ago
Something went wrong
jasonflow
Honored Guest
2 years ago
Avatar SDK with Quest for Business: how to use Shared Mode?
Our application expects that users can walk into a conference room and pick up a headset, and get into a shared experience as quickly as possible, some colocated in MR, some remote. Maybe they add a participant name, but there is no expectation that they will already have a Meta account. The Shared Mode of Oculus for Business is good, but the Avatar SDK requires a Meta ID to function. Is there any way to support generic Meta Avatars for Shared Mode usage?
CHIDWI
Honored Guest
2 years ago
Hello! I'm working in Unity 2021 with Oculus SDK and Meta Avatars SDK on a multiplayer game and there is a mirror object in the scene, there was a problem with the fact that the avatar was turned on in FirstPerson mode and the head was not displayed, the problem was solved by switching to ThirdPerson, but now I noticed that avatars with hats see part of the cap or hat from the main camera. I tried to solve the problem by creating a copy of the avatar (mirroring) and adjusting the layers, but at the same time, you can see the layering of avatars and a slight synchronization of movements. Are there any ways to solve my problem, is it possible to enable full body rendering for a separate camera when the first-person mode is enabled? and will the problem with partially visible hats in the first-person view (but in the script it is enabled from the third person) be solved in the future?
torsten.knodt
Explorer
3 years ago
I found two bugs in the Meta Avatar 2 SDK.
Shader error in 'Avatar/Horizon': Couldn't open include file 'AvatarCommonSurfaceFIelds.cginc'. at Assets/Oculus/Avatar2/Example/Common/Shaders/Horizon/AvatarCommon/AvatarCommonLighting.cginc(11)
Shader error in 'Avatar/Horizon': Couldn't open include file '../FBToneMapping.cginc'. at Assets/Oculus/Avatar2/Example/Common/Shaders/Horizon/Horizon/VertexGI/Interface.cginc(15)
Both are caused, because the case between filename and reference in the cginc file not being consistent.

Feedback/ feature requests:
All-in-One example with other SDKs, especially interaction
Configuration of bot avatars in the Unity inspector (not with number, but more like the editor in the Quest)
bob.ross1337
Honored Guest
3 years ago
Hey guys, i have an issue with the correct display of the elbows. do i need to change a certain setting in avatarsdkmanagerhorizon or in my ovravatarentity script? I would be grateful for any help.
- chrisnolet
  Explorer
  3 years ago
  I noticed this on v20 as well. Does rolling back to v18 fix things?
midnight.venom.queen
Protege
3 years ago
so far as of April 5th 2023 I have not had any issues I can think of ad of yet ...
KNOW IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN AFTER THE FACT YOU BETTER BELIVE I WILL GET A HD OF YOU FOR SOME HELP
chrisnolet
Explorer
3 years ago
I've been using the Meta Avatar SDK for a while now. I've noticed a regression with v20 on Quest Pro:
In a networked session, Quest Pro avatars will freeze if the user takes their headset off and then puts it back on. Other players will see the Quest Pro user 'stuck' in the position they were in when they removed the headset. The avatars are unrecoverable until the player leaves and rejoins the game.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Sync avatars with with `.RecordStreamData()` and `.ApplyStreamData()`
2. Join session with one Quest Pro user and one Quest 2 user
3. Quest Pro user removes the headset
4. Quest Pro user dons the headset
Expected result: Quest 2 user should see the Quest Pro user's avatar continue to work.
Actual result: Quest 2 user sees a frozen avatar.
This is a regression from v18. I am able to repro by toggling back-and-forth between the v18 and v20 Avatar SDK plugins.
kuriyama.kyastal
Protege
3 years ago
Can I place my avatar farther away from the CameraRig?
I would like to know how to keep the avatar shown even when it is far away, as it hides when I move away a little.

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