β11-17-2022 04:50 PM - edited β12-12-2022 10:42 AM
-3060ti, i7 12th gen, 64gb ram
Ive had a quest 2 for about a week. Familiar with and used other headsets in the past (friends/family). Was excited to have my own headset finally. So, the native quest apps and environment are fine and smooth. BUT the moment I go into Oculus link/airlink i get these intermittent microstutters every time I move or turn my head. Ive tried every workaround i could find on the interwebs and nothing has removed/fixed the frequent movement/tracking stutter. My rig exceeds the specs and my router/internet is fine, but the oculus app doesnt want to play nice with steam vr, particularly with HL Alyx. The stutter/frame jump issue is hard to look at and making my experience terrible. After reading many posts, forums and articles on the subject I find its very common apparently? Many have said its actually gotten worse with updates. The fact that these intermittent stutter issues were apparently better or non-existent for the very same people in previous versions clearly indicates a software/update issue rather than a hardware or setup issue. Im inclined to believe its software side and recent updates have broken something that was working previously. If I cant get this figured out within 2 weeks (return period), i will fix the issue myself, by returning my Quest to where I bought it and getting a reverb or index!
β11-17-2022 05:32 PM
This is the worst itβs ever been. The v46 update introduced link-breaking runtime errors. Itβs literally unplayable when you load up link. They had/have (depends if it shows for you or not) a SLIGHT fix in the PTC under the beta tab in pc client, seemed to have helped it at least run for the most part (stutters and hiccups still occurred but ghosting was fixed and no frame drops other than the rhythmic every 5-6 sec ). I canβt get access to that build anymore for some reason, swapped back and forth no problem yesterday but it started defaulting back to v46 today. Anyway, it was working perfectly before w no stutters but the past two updates have been sh*tty with no QC or provisioning. Just slapped together some code and failed to test it. Had they tested, they would have seen the issue firsthand. Either way, poor decisions from those working on whatever bull**** spaghetti code is going on these past two months.
β11-17-2022 05:45 PM - edited β11-17-2022 05:53 PM
oof. Looks like i picked a bad time to jump in. Just updated nvidia drivers to most recent release and joined ptc beta. Will try to jam later tonight to see if problem persists or any improvement. Not optimistic from what im hearing on forums tho. sigh π© Sidenote, amazing how many bizarre workarounds exist for the issue; from audio output changes to leaving the debug console window open, to changing a bunch of graphics hardware settings. Seems outrageous to me. Its as if Q and A doesnt exist anymore and the end user/customer has to guess how to fix the product!
β11-17-2022 05:50 PM - edited β11-17-2022 05:51 PM
If you can go to notifications on the pc client, click the notification for the download/update, and if it says βno information available about this updateβ then you will be on (whatβs assumed to be) a small patch fix for the MAJOR stutter/ghost issue but not the entire issue. At least itβs playable that way (steamvr was fine, boneworks through oculus store was NOT). If it says βwhatβs newβ and βv46 or oculus dash 1.39.1β or whatever then youβre stuck w the crapshoot that is the oculus platform rn. Either way, Iβm sorry about your timing on this one. Itβs not your fault, itβs a really enticing headset. Iβve loved it for the most part, but times like these make me feel like an absolute tool for buying into the belief that theyβd give a sh*t about offering a playable experience for your money.
β11-17-2022 11:16 PM - edited β11-17-2022 11:17 PM
Soooo, after updating the nvidia drivers and opting into the ptc beta, i tried to play some half life alyx tonight and sadly issue remains totally unchanged. Sent log files to support. We will see if they can at least glean some info from the logs. I will say it seems like the airlink has the "potential" to work smoothly, but there is clearly something amiss in the software side of things. Again, the hardware definitely meets req'd specs. My internet and bandwidth also meet spec. You would think as long as you "meet specs" on all criteria, it would be fairly plug and play. Guess not! Very disappointed. That all said I have about 2 weeks to get this situation hopefully resolved, otherwise i will return the device where i got it before the return window closes. I'll use the $ for another headset with more reliability. Index kit is on sale for $999 atm, might do that instead. I only chose the quest 2 for the wireless option, as cords tend to wear and get tangled easily from my experience, if not outright yanked out on accident...repeatedly.
β11-19-2022 05:07 PM
So I went out on a limb and got virtual desktop on sale and guess what. Its performance playing pcvr through wireless is great compared to the airlink/link app. Night and day. This essentially proves the issue is not my network or the device (quest native stuff works fine) but rather the oculus airlink software. It simply struggles with tracking/movement for some reason lately with stuttering and glitching. The vd app does the same job 1000x better. I was told by support to use the "route this" app to discover network issues and of course, my network is fine. I've tried all other workarounds recommended, settings, etc and it seems airlink is simply not up to the task of wireless pcvr without stutter. it's an issue the airlink devs are solely going to have to figure out on their end. Perhaps they can get advice from the people that made virtual desktop! Virtual desktop is the only reason I may not return this device (I was ready to) as I can play pcvr now, and do so smoothly, with their third party app. Amazing that a couple guys made the virtual desktop app with little support, and it functions better than a billion dollar companies product!
β11-20-2022 02:03 AM - edited β11-20-2022 02:17 AM
Hey there,
I had the frame skip issue for around 13 months would you mind trying something for me.
Go to Settings/Graphic Settings/ on browse add in these 4.exe files
OVRRedir
OVRServer_64x
OVRServiceLauncher
OculusClient
Set the 4 files above via Settings/Graphic Settings/Browse
Now add all 4.exe files from the Oculus folder, you will have to find these in there.
In folders Program Files/oculus-client - OculusClient.exe
Program Files/oculus-runtime -
OVRRedir
OVRServer_x64
OVRServiceLauncher
Once added in graphic settings manualy go to options and set graphic preferences to
High Performance
GPU: Nvidia RTX ****
Save
Also now you can head to the settings in SteamVR and open advanced settings tab/developer i believe and set runtime to Oculus.
Give that a try and let me know how that goes.
Also in display drop down to 1080p and 60hz
Could you let me know if that helped.
I had a RTX3080 and a different rig with a RTX3080ti both stuttered until i did this after 13 months of trying to figure what the issue was.
Thanks
β11-20-2022 02:07 AM
As shown here
β11-21-2022 09:00 AM
I try it, but didn't help me.
β11-21-2022 09:31 AM
The only fix I have found was to use 120 hz with VD. While I haven't tested with link, it has fixed my stuttering with Virtual Desktop. I had tried everything. I noticed that when checking all my metrics, they were perfect. My frame time response was amazing, router was literally 4 ft away hitting less than 10ms response time at 866mbps, no network drops and plenty of headroom on my GPU and CPU. Yet, within the headset, I could see weird lag and stretching. It almost looked like async but async was off.
Randomly decided to turn 120 hz on my Quest on and then on Virtual Desktop and boom, smooth as butter. There are still dips here and there but it's like night and day in terms of stability. The weird async looking stretching is gone.