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Anyone use Li-Ion rechargeable batteries for Quest?

twisteklabs
Heroic Explorer
I am out of AA batteries at home, so planning to get Li-ion AA batteries that provide constant 1.5v rather than drop voltage as it discharges.
Each battery has a micro-usb connection to charge it. I am wondering if anyone already uses rechargeable Li-ion batteries for their Quest.
Does the discharge rate of these batteries work with Quest controllers?
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Eatsrootsleaves
Protege
I was looking at those but they are quite expensive and the prices vary a lot.
Might be needed for the HP Reverb G2 I have coming too.
Which ones were you looking at and where, amazon or ebay etc.
Can you provide a link to them?

twisteklabs
Heroic Explorer
I got this one. I hope it has sufficient discharge current for Quest and Quest 2.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0828KRQZ3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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kojack
MVP
MVP
I've got 8 Jugee brand LiPos and a charger coming this week from Ebay. I mainly need them for the Reverb G2, apparently its controllers don't like 1.2V NiMH rechargeables, it will say they are low.
They are not quite double the price of eneloop pros.

One fun thing with these LiPo batteries is they use mWh instead of mAh (watts instead of amps). So you can't compare NiMH (which typically use mAh) to these directly. mWh = mAh * V

Some people are getting Nickel Zinc AA batteries. Be careful with those though, they run at 1.65v, which may damage things that don't regulate the voltage. (Also they have a tiny number of recharges before they perform worse, around 30-50 for some of them)

I'll try the Quest 2 with the Jugees, since I'm getting it a month before the Reverb G2.
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Eatsrootsleaves
Protege
Yeah they look good, cant get those ones in Australia even from Amazon AU.
The seem to be the highest capacity ones I've seen if their capacity claims are accurate.
Couldn't find them on ebay either but found some similar ones from a local supplier.
I would say they will work fine and from my estimates may last longer than alkaline AA batteries.
Self discharge may be an issue though due to the built in circuitry discharging them slowly.

Hey Kojack what capacity are the Jugee batts your getting?

enigma01
Trustee
I have been using these for a while in my Quest controllers without issue:

EBL AA AAA Battery Charger - 4 Slots Speedy Charger for Li-ion AA AAA Rechargeable Batteries, 4 Packs 3000mWh High Capacity Lithium AA Rechargeable Batteries https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B088ZQ7J1K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SCwFFb933ZC38

I started to get tired of having to remove and reinsert my Eneloop Pro batteries as the controllers wouldn’t power on after say 24 hours not used. I can only assume this was something to do with the controllers not liking the 1.2v?, or the self discharge? It doesn’t occur anymore with the the EBL Li-ions and doesn’t with regular alkaline batteries either. 

kojack
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Hey Kojack what capacity are the Jugee batts your getting?


3000mWh.



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TomCgcmfc
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I am out of AA batteries at home, so planning to get Li-ion AA batteries that provide constant 1.5v rather than drop voltage as it discharges.
Each battery has a micro-usb connection to charge it. I am wondering if anyone already uses rechargeable Li-ion batteries for their Quest.
Does the discharge rate of these batteries work with Quest controllers?


For my Oculus Rift cv1 and Quest 1 controllers I have always used standard (white) Eneloop aa 1900mahr batteries.  These are reasonably inexpensive. give long runtimes, have the highest cycle life, and lowest discharge in storage. 

I'm not sure why you would want to consider anything else for a Quest or Rift controller?  

BTW, Eneloop Pro's are not worth the extra cost imho.  Extra runtime is not that much (esp. if you have pre-charged spares to quickly change out) and they have lower cycle life and higher discharge in storage.  The Pro's are mainly useful for higher amp draw devices like camera flash units.

https://eneloop101.com/batteries/eneloop-test-results/#:~:text=An%20Alkaline%20Fujitsu%20battery%20h...

Aside;
Still pretty hard to believe that HP is still recommending 1.5v NiZn or 1.5v alkaline.  Esp. since no 1.5v alkaline maintains 1.2v under load as long than the standard Eneloops and NiZn have poor reported cycle life.  I'm sure this mystery will be solved when actual HP G2 production units are in the hands of independent users. 

I think that if HP thought that 1.5v constant was important they should have installed li-ion packs like the Vive and Index controllers use.  My Vive controllers seem to last a long time (~8 hours) and if I need to I just connect them to one of my external batteries and I still can use while they charge.  It seems to me that HP did not take advantage of all Valve's experience, lol!

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pyroth309
Visionary

TomCgcmfc said:



I am out of AA batteries at home, so planning to get Li-ion AA batteries that provide constant 1.5v rather than drop voltage as it discharges.
Each battery has a micro-usb connection to charge it. I am wondering if anyone already uses rechargeable Li-ion batteries for their Quest.
Does the discharge rate of these batteries work with Quest controllers?



Aside;
Still pretty hard to believe that HP is still recommending 1.5v NiZn or 1.5v alkaline.  Esp. since no 1.5v alkaline maintains 1.2v under load as long than the standard Eneloops and NiZn have poor reported cycle life.  I'm sure this mystery will be solved when actual HP G2 production units are in the hands of independent users. 

I think that if HP thought that 1.5v constant was important they should have installed li-ion packs like the Vive and Index controllers use.  My Vive controllers seem to last a long time (~8 hours) and if I need to I just connect them to one of my external batteries and I still can use while they charge.  It seems to me that HP did not take advantage of all Valve's experience, lol!


HP posted this.

16. What batteries do the controllers take?

  • The controllers are powered by two 1.5V AA batteries each. Note that
    while most non-rechargeable AA batteries will work, the most common
    rechargeable AA batteries, NiMHs, are only 1.2V and will leave the
    controllers in low power mode with reduced accuracy and haptic feedback.


17. What rechargeable batteries should I use?



  • For rechargeable batteries you want to look at 1.5V or 1.6V NiZn or
    Li-ion batteries. Common brands are PKCELL, Jugee and EBL. You can find a
    detailed guide to battery choices on the unofficial G2 website.



Anonymous
Not applicable
I just bought some eneloop batteries on amazon. There’s a kit on sale that comes with the charger for about 50 dollars and gives 12 AA and 4 AAA batteries. Going to use these in my Oculus controllers