10-13-2020 07:14 AM
First thing I noticed was the black levels are no where near as good as the Quest 1. But oh damn, that display is sharp.
SDE is NOT gone, but it is massively reduced. I notice it mostly looking at UI and reading text.
Thank God setting 2 fits my IPD best because the loss of FOV in setting 3 is really bad.
I was gutted the elite strap has been delayed for me but I was pleasantly surprised by the built in one, it feels more comfortable to me than the Quest 1 strap so far, let's see how I feel after extended use though.
This might be a placebo, but is the tracking more responsive? Just feels like a sliver of delay has been shaved off.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/jae2n4/quest_2_first_impressions/
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
10-23-2020 01:29 AM
Luciferous said:
Some of this may have been my fault for mentioning the G2. I didn't mean to take anything away from the reviews.
I was just saying I have seen a lot of people who have recently bought new Oculus and non Oculus headsets saying its comparable with the CV1 for PCVR in balance (IE some things better some things worse, but essentially a close call). I will be very disappointed if my next headset works out to be the same, which it could well do.
This has been one of the reasons I have kept the CV1 for so long.
After I made the comment though I immediately regretted it. Not particularly fair to take one comment and come to a conclusion as there are many people saying the opposite.
I could be tempted though maybe Q3 now if the wireless range could be extended by repeaters or something like that. I have a fairly small VR room but if I could turn on the PC and go into my living room without having to lug all the equipment about that could be brilliant and a game changer. So I can see the potential attraction.
In the UK we get fairly small houses for our money and being an island, space is at a premium.
If anything the Quest 2 looks like a very interesting headset to play with for the money.
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
10-23-2020 02:23 AM
10-23-2020 02:58 AM
10-23-2020 03:12 AM
10-23-2020 03:38 AM
pyroth309 said:
I took Quest 2 out for a spin this evening with the Wireless Virtual Desktop method and it looks pretty nice. I put all of the possible settings on max and maxed the stream rate bar past 150Mb and that gave me a pretty good image. That said, it's still a pretty soft image and I can see artifacts. The softness is impactful enough that I'm losing fine details on small textures and such. One thing I'm having a problem with is the Quest 2 onboard audio which I already find on the low side is really low for me with this method. I had to hook up some headphones which was annoying.I next tried Quest Link with the public test build. I set the Pixels per display to 1.5, encode resolution width to 3664 (tried it against Zero and 3664 looked better) and Encode Bitrate to 500. Immediately noticed the image is crisper than the virtual desktop method. I briefly ran the headset through several games with these settings. Alyx, Freediver, Aircar, Dirt Rally 2, Stormland, IL-2, Elite Dangerous and for the most part it seems pretty comparable to my O+ with supersampling visually. I do feel like there's a loss of detail still in parts and in games where the screen is moving by fast (Dirt Rally/IL-2/Other sims) I still see quite a bit of artifacting but it's usable. All in all, pretty close to PCVR for sure. Would be really nice if you could get this 500 or at least 300 mbps over Virtual Desktop.
10-23-2020 04:33 AM
Luciferous said:
...I could be tempted though maybe Q3 now if the wireless range could be extended by repeaters or something like that. I have a fairly small VR room but if I could turn on the PC and go into my living room without having to lug all the equipment about that could be brilliant and a game changer. So I can see the potential attraction.
In the UK we get fairly small houses for our money as being an island, space is at a premium.
If anything the Quest 2 looks like a very interesting headset to play with for the money.
10-23-2020 04:35 AM
inovator said:
pyroth309 said:
I took Quest 2 out for a spin this evening with the Wireless Virtual Desktop method and it looks pretty nice. I put all of the possible settings on max and maxed the stream rate bar past 150Mb and that gave me a pretty good image. That said, it's still a pretty soft image and I can see artifacts. The softness is impactful enough that I'm losing fine details on small textures and such. One thing I'm having a problem with is the Quest 2 onboard audio which I already find on the low side is really low for me with this method. I had to hook up some headphones which was annoying.I next tried Quest Link with the public test build. I set the Pixels per display to 1.5, encode resolution width to 3664 (tried it against Zero and 3664 looked better) and Encode Bitrate to 500. Immediately noticed the image is crisper than the virtual desktop method. I briefly ran the headset through several games with these settings. Alyx, Freediver, Aircar, Dirt Rally 2, Stormland, IL-2, Elite Dangerous and for the most part it seems pretty comparable to my O+ with supersampling visually. I do feel like there's a loss of detail still in parts and in games where the screen is moving by fast (Dirt Rally/IL-2/Other sims) I still see quite a bit of artifacting but it's usable. All in all, pretty close to PCVR for sure. Would be really nice if you could get this 500 or at least 300 mbps over Virtual Desktop.
Were anything you tried at 90 htz? Some reviewers said at 90 htz in virtual desktop the games looked and played fantastic.
10-23-2020 04:42 AM
nalex66 said:
Luciferous said:
...I could be tempted though maybe Q3 now if the wireless range could be extended by repeaters or something like that. I have a fairly small VR room but if I could turn on the PC and go into my living room without having to lug all the equipment about that could be brilliant and a game changer. So I can see the potential attraction.
In the UK we get fairly small houses for our money as being an island, space is at a premium.
If anything the Quest 2 looks like a very interesting headset to play with for the money.
I just got a new WiFi 6 router (TP-Link AX1500, about $100 CAD) to extend my WiFi range, and I can now get a strong 1200 Mbps 5GHz signal in Virtual Desktop in every room in my house (my modem gave me 866 Mbps, but only if I was in the same room). I was amazed that it worked so well.
10-23-2020 04:57 AM
RuneSR2 said:
Luciferous said:
Some of this may have been my fault for mentioning the G2. I didn't mean to take anything away from the reviews.
I was just saying I have seen a lot of people who have recently bought new Oculus and non Oculus headsets saying its comparable with the CV1 for PCVR in balance (IE some things better some things worse, but essentially a close call). I will be very disappointed if my next headset works out to be the same, which it could well do.
This has been one of the reasons I have kept the CV1 for so long.
After I made the comment though I immediately regretted it. Not particularly fair to take one comment and come to a conclusion as there are many people saying the opposite.
I could be tempted though maybe Q3 now if the wireless range could be extended by repeaters or something like that. I have a fairly small VR room but if I could turn on the PC and go into my living room without having to lug all the equipment about that could be brilliant and a game changer. So I can see the potential attraction.
In the UK we get fairly small houses for our money and being an island, space is at a premium.
If anything the Quest 2 looks like a very interesting headset to play with for the money.
Due to the Quest 2 physical res, it would be natural to compare it to G2. Personally I'm looking forward to @pyroth309 getting his G2 and then being able to directly compare Quest 2 and G2. When adding proper headphones, Oculus Link cable and elite head strap Quest 2 might still be cheaper than G2, but maybe not a lot.
10-23-2020 04:58 AM
oliver.jp said:
nalex66 said:
Luciferous said:
...I could be tempted though maybe Q3 now if the wireless range could be extended by repeaters or something like that. I have a fairly small VR room but if I could turn on the PC and go into my living room without having to lug all the equipment about that could be brilliant and a game changer. So I can see the potential attraction.
In the UK we get fairly small houses for our money as being an island, space is at a premium.
If anything the Quest 2 looks like a very interesting headset to play with for the money.
I just got a new WiFi 6 router (TP-Link AX1500, about $100 CAD) to extend my WiFi range, and I can now get a strong 1200 Mbps 5GHz signal in Virtual Desktop in every room in my house (my modem gave me 866 Mbps, but only if I was in the same room). I was amazed that it worked so well.
@Luciferous
Uk here too.
Routers provided by ISPs are absolutely rubbish. Repeaters and extenders aren't a good solution in my opinion. You're much better off buying a better router.
I got a TP-Link Archer AX6000 and couldn't be happier. You don't have to spend that much, as @nalex said, an AX1500 is probably good enough. I mainly wanted the 8 ports on the back so I can wire more stuff in rather than using up WiFi bandwidth.