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Worse motion sickness?

Scofthe7seas
Honored Guest
On the DK1 I was able to check out all of the demos, all of the roller coasters, everything. I only got a bit of motion sickness once or twice, and it always was after using it for a long time, and under other circumstances (long day, tired etc..)
But so far with the DK2, I have been getting some crazy motion sickness from several demos. I started getting it looking at some of the water effect on quake 2, and again on quake 1 (just playing normal for a while)
But I just tried the Helix coaster, and I couldn't even survive the thing. Ugh, had to take it off. That NEVER happened on the Dk1! Has anybody else felt similarly?

As an aside, all of these demos have been running in extended mode, if that matters.
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scrypt
Honored Guest
everyone says the dk2 should be less sickness inducing. It seems strange that this is happening to you. from what I understand though is you really need a high frame rate to have a comfortable vr experience. maybe the higher resolution of the dk2 is too much for your hardware to push. try using fraps or some other software that will show your fps onscreen. if its under 75 fps you probably need to upgrade some of your other hardware.

Sharpfish
Heroic Explorer
You have to take into account the higher rendering overhead for DK2 (resolution) - this will reduce your Frames per second and maybe you are not hitting the minimum target? If you are I can't see why it would be worse motion sickness. It should be better.


Check those framerates - 75fps+ and run the rift at 75hz

Scofthe7seas
Honored Guest
I gots me a 780GTX so that isn't the case. It runs butter smooth. I remember reading about how it was supposed to reduce motion sickness, but so far that hasn't been the case for me. I'm guessing by the lack of responses that this isn't true for most people 🙂
I'm going to keep trying a bit every day hoping it will be more comfortable.
I was able to play both quakes for a decent amount of time (3 or so levels of each.) As for the roller coaster, I put it on right after extensive usage (sightline, which didn't make me sick) so I'm going to try that again going in cold.
I'm still in disbelief about having to alt-f4 that sucker. After all the coasters I rode in the DK1! I love roller coasters!
Fingers crossed.

crisu
Honored Guest
I can't relate to previous version of Oculus Rift but I can say DK2 makes me sick as hell on some demos.

Scofthe7seas
Honored Guest
Ok, so I was able to survive cyberspace, but it was pretty bad. VERY dizzying. But then I tried Cyberspace, and I made it through, but now I have this messed up Pavlovian response where sitting in the same chair is making me feel kind of dizzy.
I'm wondering about my setup giving me the same as what other people are getting. For one, I pretty regularly get the "jutters" when using direct to rift mode, so I use extended, but my original monitor is my 60hz TV. (I know most people have a 120hz one by now, but this thing is like.. 9 years old. It's done good by me 🙂 )
I was also one of the people that had the "rift not detected" issue while in extended mode.
It's hard to say with all these factors if it's my particular biology, or something not functioning properly.

KWUEST
Honored Guest
"Scofthe7seas" wrote:
Ok, so I was able to survive cyberspace, but it was pretty bad. VERY dizzying. But then I tried Cyberspace, and I made it through, but now I have this messed up Pavlovian response where sitting in the same chair is making me feel kind of dizzy.
I'm wondering about my setup giving me the same as what other people are getting. For one, I pretty regularly get the "jutters" when using direct to rift mode, so I use extended, but my original monitor is my 60hz TV. (I know most people have a 120hz one by now, but this thing is like.. 9 years old. It's done good by me 🙂 )
I was also one of the people that had the "rift not detected" issue while in extended mode.
It's hard to say with all these factors if it's my particular biology, or something not functioning properly.


That Pavolvian response is a killer, I got it next day just looking at the on screen version after playing the HL2 beta.

There is a fix to stop that jitter that worked for me
see here: http://www.theriftarcade.com/how-to-fix-the-stuttering-in-unity-powered-games-on-dk2/

Scofthe7seas
Honored Guest
I'll give that a shot, but certainly not tonight. I was off for most of the day, and even when I felt hungry for dinner, my appetite wasn't as large as it usually is. I said Cyberspace twice in my last post, but what I meant was that I survived Helix. I ended up switching my chair back to the normal recliner I use for computer work and feel a lot better. Hopefully, I can one day sit in one of the dining room chairs again. 😄

Gentleman
Honored Guest
I remember my first DK1 experience, even on the Tuscany demo I felt sick after about 15 seconds.

I don't know if it's because I'm more acclimatised in general now however first DK2 experience even running on crap Intel 4600 ~20fps I felt fine and tried out a few demos. It was only 'Lava Inc' that I felt a bit queazy however hopefully when my new GFX card arrives and I can rock a solid 75fps I expect that will help.

Might be worth looking at this test scene, the results seem to vary a lot as to what gives optimal performance.
http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2db8sb/041_sdk_test_scene_report_back_your_experience/

AlricJ
Honored Guest
Not for me. The only time it's uncomfortable is when the framerate drops.