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Best Force Feedback wheels for VR

AdKiuCM
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As per the topic. Could you recommend some nice wheels with force feedback for VR? Meaning "for VR" we don't need speed/rev displays + 1000 switches etc.

Immersion is most important. I consider buying G29 + pedals + shifter. Price is quite reasonable too. heard some opinions it is too small for good immersion.

I do not mind paying more for good quality products, but I am not a great simrace maniac and it is for occasional weekend playing, sometimes with friends etc. 

I do not have a special chair or space for it. I use my living room armchair for gaming. Would have to clip wheel on a table in the front of mee unfortunately each time and disassemble it at the end of each session.

Also I hope to spark a decent discussion about wheels, their quality, quality of FF etc. I never owned one, but tested a few before in my friends places or shop displays.
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PravusJSB
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Lol at the above person complaining about Fanatec reliability on these forums, where half of the people have issues with the Rift!

I've used Fanatec for years, yes sometimes they go wrong but support is great and 2 years warranty comes with their stuff. Currently running CSWV2, CSPV3, Universal Hub and with the rift... Amazing.

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magnoxop
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I just got the 920 from bestbuy - they matched amazons price of $293 - its a g29 but works on the xbox one.

SC0RP10N
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Fanatec CSW v2 with Clusbsport V3 peddles and Porsche 918 RSR wheel. You can't do wrong!

Nij
Heroic Explorer
@magnoxop
yeah I picked up the g920 today, figured I could use it on my xbox One if I ever get bored of the rift 

Do you need to do any initial cconfiguring of  the wheel or configure it for project cars? I had to change the accelerator and clutch as they were the wrong way round 
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obzen
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- Second hand G27. Dunno, £100-£120? Cheap and still good (basically a G29 with added shifter, maybe even better built). As long as it's not been abused. 

- G29 / G920 for entry level wheel. Kinda of a toy compared to the 'real' stuff, but still very adequate. Decent pedals, small wheel though. Paid £180 with added shifter.

- Thrustmaster T300 has better wheel base, but pedals suck. Has a bunch of accessories (T3PA, a bunch of detachable rims, and shifters). £300.

- T500RS, has a nice round set of features. Pedals are much better, can be configured GT / F1 style. £300-£400 with shifter and stuff. Needs a rig, it's quite huge and heavy.

- Fanatec is on another league. I would go straight to the ClubSport pedals V3, and ClubSport V2 Wheel base, or not bother, might as well just get a T500RS. £1K to get a decent rig. Over 2K with a bunch of rims and accessories. 

- DIY custom build, with industrial motor. Entering the Danger Zone (powerful motors and transformers), good quality motor alone around £500. Add ClubSport Pedals, about £2K, £2.5K.

- Leo Bodnar / AccuForce. if you have £3K-£5K. Bodnar usually considered top shelf. That's pro sim rigs, meaning people who actually race IRL. Or rich/dedicated enthusiasts. 

All things considered, sim racing is relatively cheap. Real racing is stupidly expensive in comparison. But then, it's a different story.
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obzen
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sparkie14 said:

I have t500RS with f1 addon wheel.  Great step up from g25 then g29.  I wouldnt go back to a logitec now.  The feedback and smoothness ifs superior imo..



I agree, there really is no comparison between the gear clacking G25/27/29 (they're all pretty much the same) and the beautifully smooth and quiet belt driven Thrustmaster offerings. The T300 Ferrari Alcantara Edition with the (brake mod included) T3PA pedal unit is probably the best wheel/pedal set available for reasonably "normal" money at the moment. 

Yeah, it's approx. £150 more than the Logitech G29/920, but it's well worth it.  

About time they did that TBH. I didn't mind the rim, but the pedals were an absolute joke. If you are a semi-serious sim racer (i.e. IRacing subscriber) and looking for a good set, that's the bundle to get. 
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Anonymous
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Largely depends on how much you're willing to spend. Some of the "high end" stuff out there (like the Direct Drive wheels such as the Accuforce) go for $1000+ the cost of the actual real wheel to mount onto the drive system...  I've never actually used one but there are folks who swear by them as being the most accurate. 

Personally, if you're in the $200-$600 range, look at the G27/29, Thrustmasters or Fanatec setups. I use an older Fanatec Porsche Turbo S wheel that was the only one on the market at the time that supported Xbox 360, PS3 and PC. I've replaced the shifter that came with it with the Fanatec 1.5SQ shifter, and the base pedals with the Fanatec Clubsport V3's. I use this setup for iRacing pretty regularly and it works great. I'm considering upgrading to the Fanatec Clubsport V2 wheel base though (know a guy getting rid of his soon as he upgraded to an Accuforce).

Anonymous
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The Fanatec gear feels like something close to the real deal compared to Logitech / TM wheels.  The AccuForce is  more robust with greater Dynamic Range and the Bodnar systems (highly refined turn-key systems) are at the high-end; in between are the DIY or custom-built OSW-type wheels with various motors and components being used.

The AccuForce systems are offered in several variants: DIY/MOD version: Basic  bare-bones system with controller/PSU, motor, cables for about $1100 (You add QR, wheel, shifter and buttons)
Basic system without button box, paddle-shifter and Quick-release for about $1200 usd - can be upgraded later. (None come with pedals) Includes SimCommander / SimVibe.
AccuForce Pro: Ready to run steering system with button box, paddle-shifters, wheel/QR & SimCommander software - $1800 (Includes SimCommander / SimVibe).

OSW-type Custom Steering System: depending on the hardware, motor and accessories, cost can vary from about $1200 usd to several thousand. The motor alone can cost from $200 to $2000 or more but, the small Mige produces torque levels of 20nm / Large Mige / Lenze / AKM produce torque of 30nm+.  These systems produce FFB with great detail and dynamic range - beyond everything except the Bodnar's. These are either DIY or custom made to order. Custom wheels/buttons/shifters can add hundreds to thousands more.


Anonymous
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The thrustmaster TX series is great, far better then the g29/g920 wheels (sold mine to get a TX instead).

jon_dojah
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My original setup since 2012 was Fanatec Porsche GT2 wheel + CSR shifter and Clubsport v1 pedals w/ load cell mod.  The wheel stopped working out of nowhere after not being used for over a year.

So I swapped the wheel out for Thrustmaster T300RS snd TH8A shifter but still able to use my Clubsport pedals with this CPX adapter from BasherBoards http://www.basherboards.com/CPX

I like this wheel and shifter more than the Fanatec's.  The best thing about Fanatec imo is their pedals.