I've supported Oculus since the kickstarter. I own a DK1 and a DK2, my CV1 is due to ship in 2 weeks time.
I'm still excited for VR but have no desire to deal with Oculus any more, thanks to their ridiculous attempts to prevent their games running on the Vive.
I always had a soft spot for the Rift. It showed possibilities and promised the opportunity to hack around inside VR. Since then it's turned into a walled-garden with a carefully sanitised experience. Sniping at other VR users is nothing short of petty.
It's doubly galling since I've now paid three times for a headset that I thought would be worthwhile. More fool me.
If customers buy a game from us, I don't care if they mod it to run on whatever they want. As I have said a million times (and counter to the current circlejerk), our goal is not to profit by locking people to only our hardware
I had a lot invested in the Rift, so when the Vive came out, I thought I'd stick with what I knew. The specs were similar and I could wait for touch controllers. This latest stupidity has tipped the balance.
So, the Vive is ordered and I'm off to cancel my CV1. I hope some others feel the same way I do and vote with their wallets. I guess we'll see...
Why always same post? cancelling rift to get a Vive, do you guys think we really care? only people that are waiting does, cause they will get it early. And posting that will not put you in 1st line of the shipping batch LOL. You want to do that, just do it and no need to come here and post it.
I don't really understand this exclusivity business with VR. Isn't that like saying my monitor will only run certain programs made by ACER, and will not run any other programs? I don't really understand this.
The only reason i was considering a Vive was due to Steam where i can pay with PayPal .
Found out a while ago that the Oculus store requires a credit card, but i honestly dont know anyone who uses one, i dont really want to sit without games when my Rift ships, i really hope they will consider it...
The only reason i was considering a Vive was due to Steam where i can pay with PayPal .
Found out a while ago that the Oculus store requires a credit card, but i honestly dont know anyone who uses one, i dont really want to sit without games when my Rift ships, i really hope they will consider it...
It's not just credit cards they accept but any visa, mastercard so a debit card would work as well. I live in the UK and pretty much everyone here has a debit card that would work on the Oculus store.
Where are you from? Maybe you can get a prepaid card and use that?
So Oculus have an open store and valve won't support it as they lose sales... so you are getting a Vive?
Then you are hurt a hack which lets Vive owners play Oculus games being removed so you decide to get the headset currently limited to 1 store as per the above.
I think you may have miss identified the 'bad guys' here.
Oh well, Enjoy your Vive, have fun.
Conversely, I think you're missing the point. From day one, this was promised as a platform that would open up VR, allow people to pull the headset apart, swap lenses, etc.
The whole kickstarter was sold on that approach and it was bandied about all through DK2.
If I'd known this was just going to be a facebook money-grab, I wouldn't have forked out on the kickstarter or DK2.
Now, someone in facebook has decided that users can't be trusted with anything except safety scissors and over-sized mitts. Oh and by the way, they're going to actively discourage something they said they'd embrace.
Good points Keylo. People need to stop arguing about which one is better. We need to support virtual reality and the growth of cyberspace. Stop complaining about exclusive titles. Look at how X box and especially Playstation controls their content.
Exclusives are the problem you're talking about.
When you buy a console, it's a self-contained system which plays games. It makes sense that games are written for a certain platform (not that develoeprs like doing it, it makes for a smaller market and adds lots of work to support multiple platforms, but it is what it is).
The Rift, Vive, etc are peripherals.
How would you feel about buying a Playstation and then finding out that it would only work on Sony TVs? Bought an XBox? Better go replace your TV with one from LG.
The HMD is a very clever piece of kit, but it's not a whole platform. It's a device, and exclusives are going to kill VR adoption (or force vendor lock-in)
@Basiclife Part of the problem is that VR still requires specific software to run properly. On the surface it seems like these devices are no different than monitors or controllers, but at the moment you need software designed specifically to run these devices correctly. That's the problem.
In effect, they do operate much like a console until there's a universal standard.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
- Arthur C Clarke
@FrozenPea Hey, im from Germany, Visa/Mastercards are common here as well, but credits cards arent widely used, i even pay food with PayPal, so i was shocked to hear that it wasnt an option.
@Zenbane I think most of the original forum members who now own a Vive were or still are DK1 or DK2 owners. I don't think its fair to assume all Pro Vive owners are coming here just to troll and promote Vive.
This situation is of Oculus's creation. They are pulling the strings on DRM, exclusives and lack of Touch controllers. We the consumer get what we are given at the time and right here right now Vive seems to be the logical choice.
Valve/Steam aren't perfect but they're not caught between a rock/Steam and a hard place/Vive like Oculus is. The Vive ticks boxes and doesn't wave red flags the way the Rift does.
It is what it is.
That's a lovely story n' all, but what I was speaking towards was the unnatural tendency for people who are supposedly "happy" with their purchase to continuously flood a competitor site with embarrassingly negative feedback. Embarrassing to the author, not Oculus nor those happy with the Rift. People have even bragged prematurely on this forum: "I am so glad that I changed to Vive, even though it hasn't even shipped yet!"
