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DK2 8 hours in...talk me off the ledge.

dvs2nite
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Honesty policy - Dk2 shipped with a dead pixel in center of screen and the right rail shifts and wiggles all out of the box. Great way to make someone feel good about your product is have quality control and Oculus has zero QC on their products. I was hoping I was would be lucky and avoid the many poor product complaints on here but alas that was not to be. Lenses scratched in the first hour but its easy to ignore.

So let me give the background very quickly. I had no trouble setting up the rift to run any of the demos and games I tried to run.
Virtual Desktop
The chair: Sightline
Live for speed
Elite: Dangerous

Maybe an hour unboxing and fiddling with the software, Bliago's manager, IPD measurements and the demo scene.

So I get everything fired up and start trying the different stuff out. I figure I must be doing it wrong because everything looks pretty crappy in pretty much every sense.

Another hour of fiddling with IPD, forced vsync and physical adjustments.

Still no dice and it's at this point I realize that there isn't anything wrong.

Live for Speed is the first demo I try because I am told it doesn't have a huge problem with the sdk. Sure enough It looks just like its supposed to and runs very very smooth. however the only part that does look good is in a very small cone in the center of the rift. If I look at any of the edges I get blurry out of focus and unreadable screen. Move eyes back to center and its ok again. In driving sims this is a best case scenario for the rift. You dont really have time to be looking around a ton and your narrow focus is usually on the area directly in front of you. I just really dont want to spend my time in a racing game from 1998. Presence is pretty good here.

Elite: Dangerous is next up. Same as Live for Speed, a small cone in the center of the screen looks ok and blurry everywhere else. Text is garbage in the game unless you lean in then it just looks slightly better. The sense of presence is amazing and you really get a sense of what it would be like to live in a sci-fi space trucking adventure with unbelievably poor vision.

The Chair: Sightline This is the best demo I tried. It suffers from the least amount of poor graphics because they are really really low quality already. The narrow cone of good resolution is least apparent in this demo as well. Presence in this game is almost immediate and it is amazing. This is the experience I have seen described and the potential this device has. This was probably the only plus experience over a 40" monitor and it wasn't really worth the effort.

I am already going to cancel the other rift's I ordered. What I am looking for is a reason to care about CV1. DK2 is pretty much awful. I have no idea what people saw in DK1 that could have gave them even a shot at DK2.

The hype train has never been so unbelievably delusional. When Google was putting out a cardboard box with a phone taped in I thought it was a joke...the DK2 is a marginally better experience. I guess for some people that margin is worth a lot of money. I bought a 280$ Samsung 39" TV and hooked it up to my computer...it looks a few orders of magnitude better than the 350$ Samsung phone I hooked up to my computer.
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PVS1
Explorer
when the DK1 came out i was shipped a defective unit.

i contacted oculus about it and got a replacement within the week.

Kzero
Honored Guest
If you're not sure what people saw in the DK1 that made them get a DK2, and you're not enjoying the DK2....the CV1 will not be for you, unless it's shipped with some really strong hardware upgrades. Also, if you're more impressed with a TV than the Rift....the Rift is not for you, lol.

Paul33993
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Hmm, I guess it's a good think it's a DK kit then. Cause, you're right, consumers are going to reject this product. Which is why they'll never get the opportunity.

I don't really understand your complaints though. Your complaints are entirely entirely from a consumer POV. Why would you need more Rifts coming (that need to be canceled)? Isn't one enough? If you are a developer, and you can't see the framework for why future iterations will be cool, I guess that's your right. But even then, I don't really see why any of your complaints are relevant. Because a ton of what you're talking about right now is optics. Which everyone agrees isn't acceptable for a consumer product. And is being fixed (hopefully with flexible OLEDS that can curve to the optics).

Anonymous
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Are you a developer? If not, as an enthusiast, I'm sorry you seem to have missed the point. Next time you try a product, don't get your expectations too high.

So as not to let anyone else's future experience be ruined by the negativity in this thread, the DK1 was one of the most amazing experiences I've had in my life. I have had entire parties, literally dozens of people, who were beyond excited about the quality and technology after using only the DK1 in a few simple demos, then Half-Life 2 and quake 2. I've demo'd the DK1 on campus as well, with crowds of the same size usually gathering, at least until it became commonplace to see someone wearing the large contraption.

So again, if you really had that poor of an experience, it is most likely you, and not the DK2. Try not being so hard to please, because the Rift, for the most part, is a highly pleasing experience. I certainly did not hype up the Rift before my demonstrations, and most of the people had no idea what a Rift was before using mine.

Nissan288
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"dvs2nite" wrote:
Honesty policy - Dk2 shipped with a dead pixel in center of screen and the right rail shifts and wiggles all out of the box. Great way to make someone feel good about your product is have quality control and Oculus has zero QC on their products. I was hoping I was would be lucky and avoid the many poor product complaints on here but alas that was not to be.


That's because it's not a product. It's a Development Kit. Dev kits, even for things like Playstation and Xbox are often horrendous when they are first shipped. But you don't see anyone going "Sony's dev kit sucks that means I won't make anything for it."

I'm still waiting for mine to finish my R&D project. I'll buy yours off of you if you really don't like it.

bilago
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I'm not quite sure what you were expecting with your DK2 purchase? Of course the resolution isn't ideal @ 1080p split for two eyes, but this device was designed to lay a foundation to the CV1, not to teleport us into the Oasis. You also have to remember we're still in the infancy stage for the DK2, software support is going to get exponentially better as time goes on. If you're really this dissatisfied I'm sure you will find a desperate soul who will purchase your Rift from you.
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mscanfp
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DK stands for developers kit, , ya dk. It seems all you've developed is the ability to seem douchey on a developers forum. As for your topic, I say JUMP! 🙂
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VirtualMiner
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I don't know exactly what Oculus' return/refund policy is but I assume you have already contacted them, considering that your Rift has multiple defects. You should get a new one.

It's funny how this board, Youtube and plethora of meetings/conventions etc. are and have been full of people who have been blown away by certain demos, even though DK2 is meant for developers, SDK is far from being complete and bug free and the demos often have lacking support for DK2 (at this point this is to be expected) and are incomplete. I think that the overall experience with DK2 will improve drastically in coming months.

If you are settings are correct (you have full FOV and it's clear, you get good 3d, head tracking work etc.) and you have games that work great and yet you still feel that there's nothing to be excited about... Then it might be better that you just skip VR 🙂 Maybe come back in 2017-2018 (or whenever we get specs like 4k, >140 degrees FOV and so on).

f15sim
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Isn't it just awesome to be able to shit all over the guy instead of helping him address the issues he's got?

Knights of The Kool-Aide Mustache, RIDE ON!

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