08-18-2020 10:58 AM
Today, we’re announcing some important updates to how people log into Oculus devices, while still keeping their VR profile. Starting in October 2020:
Everyone using an Oculus device for the first time will need to log in with a Facebook account.
If you’re an existing user and already have an Oculus account, you’ll have the option to log in with Facebook and merge your Oculus and Facebook accounts.
If you’re an existing user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years.
After January 1, 2023, we will end support for Oculus accounts. If you choose not to merge your accounts at that time, you can continue using your device, but full functionality will require a Facebook account. We will take steps to allow you to keep using content you have purchased, though we expect some games and apps may no longer work. This could be because they include features that require a Facebook account or because a developer has chosen to no longer support the app or game you purchased. All future unreleased Oculus devices will require a Facebook account, even if you already have an Oculus account.
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08-24-2020 02:26 PM
Mradr said:
...Letting their less than 13 year old child to play VR - is against the ToS. Making fake accounts - against the ToS. Using a fake name is against the ToS - etc etc. Considering this is the base account - this would effect their whole account. Its no longer split. What you create now will be for public viewing where Steam for example would be not showing it as a public viewing. While you may still start turning off settings - not everyone is going to know how. I can't wait for the ban wave to happen when people report the kids - maybe I go out of my way to make this happen? (No I wont be that way, its just funny someone could if they really want to and it be easy to know because of voice chat).
08-24-2020 02:35 PM
nalex66 said:
Mradr said:
...Letting their less than 13 year old child to play VR - is against the ToS. Making fake accounts - against the ToS. Using a fake name is against the ToS - etc etc. Considering this is the base account - this would effect their whole account. Its no longer split. What you create now will be for public viewing where Steam for example would be not showing it as a public viewing. While you may still start turning off settings - not everyone is going to know how. I can't wait for the ban wave to happen when people report the kids - maybe I go out of my way to make this happen? (No I wont be that way, its just funny someone could if they really want to and it be easy to know because of voice chat).
Can you show me where in the ToS it says that you can't let a child try your headset? I'm pretty sure the 13 year-old restriction is just for creating an account. Also, the default setting is not to make your real name publicly viewable. The default setting is that only people on your friends list can see it, and you can easily change that so that nobody else can see it.Arguing against the changes is fine, but you should really review the official announcement and FAQ so that you have your facts straight rather than arguing against a strawman.
08-24-2020 02:43 PM
Arguing against the changes is fine, but you should really review the official announcement and FAQ so that you have your facts straight rather than arguing against a strawman.
08-24-2020 04:49 PM
Mradr said:
nalex66 said:
Mradr said:
...Letting their less than 13 year old child to play VR - is against the ToS. Making fake accounts - against the ToS. Using a fake name is against the ToS - etc etc. Considering this is the base account - this would effect their whole account. Its no longer split. What you create now will be for public viewing where Steam for example would be not showing it as a public viewing. While you may still start turning off settings - not everyone is going to know how. I can't wait for the ban wave to happen when people report the kids - maybe I go out of my way to make this happen? (No I wont be that way, its just funny someone could if they really want to and it be easy to know because of voice chat).
Can you show me where in the ToS it says that you can't let a child try your headset? I'm pretty sure the 13 year-old restriction is just for creating an account. Also, the default setting is not to make your real name publicly viewable. The default setting is that only people on your friends list can see it, and you can easily change that so that nobody else can see it.Arguing against the changes is fine, but you should really review the official announcement and FAQ so that you have your facts straight rather than arguing against a strawman.
“We put a warning on right when you put it on and the age of 13 was something that made a lot of sense when we became a part of Facebook, their age is 13 as well. And so we just felt ‘let’s start at 13, let’s evolve the technology more, let’s build more confidence, in the health and safety side of it. And eventually, one day, we definitely want to have Oculus for kids, especially for all the educational use of this.”This product is not a toy and should not be used by children under the
age of 13, as the headset is not sized for children and improper sizing
can lead to discomfort or adverse health effects, and younger children
are in a critical period in visual development. Adults should make sure
children (age 13 and older) use the headset in accordance with these
health and safety warnings including making sure the headset is used
as described in the Before Using Your VR System above and the Safe Environment
section below. Adults should monitor children (age 13 and older) who are using or
have used the headset for any of the symptoms described in these health and safety
warnings (including those described under the Discomfort and Repetitive Stress Injury
sections), and should limit the time children spend using the headset and ensure they
take breaks during use. Prolonged use should be avoided, as this could negatively
impact hand-eye coordination, balance, and multi-tasking ability. Adults should monitor
children closely during and after use of the headset for any decrease in these abilities.
<13 + bud - what a joke xD Where is your strawman hat my friend:)? Maybe this was an attack against me:)? Same words used by Zen.... so I assume you are trying to attack me xD
Jokes a side - yes both account creation and usage of the product is 13+ . My understanding if you want a family member to use it they will require them to also create an account - link to your main account - so they are "ok" to use the headset. The benefit is you can have more than one account for speration needs - but still access to the same game list.
Yea and people are going to know that when they create this account? Kids know very little for what it really means (even if they say they do). You can look at C19 for example. Kids ok to go back to school - but they never talk about when they get others sick or who would be paying the cost of the medical bills. Grandma doesnt even know what are "Settings". You have too much faith even people in their adult life know what it always means when they create stuff. They simply just flow though the motions to make it work. They will just start adding people - its hard not I assume to just add random people thinking its a friend list when its more than that.
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synchromesh62 said:
Dogs Cats stuffed toys all seem to be ok to have a Facebook account and Facebook seem quite happy to allow it which begs the question if i make one for my hamster can i link my quest to that ?
08-24-2020 05:31 PM