Have Oculus droped the ball on the PC community?

[Iviw40]

Sry bad eng

After hearing what Mr.John C said yesterday, or rather what he didn't say made me really for the first time actually wonder if Oculus and Mr.Palmer have dropped the ball on PC community.

We haven't heard anything what so ever from either John C or Palmer while HTC/Valve is flexing there muscles for real now and even promising a release this Christmas.

To tell the truth to you guys I think Oculus have dropped the ball. Mr.. John C didn't say anything about anything.
Its still "we don't talk about it" if we ask anything about cressent bay. While valve is answering question both left and right and showing of everything they can.

Either Palmer and his team over at Oculus now is a little "scared" (wrong word I know) because here they are thinking.
We got a rely great PC VR HMD on our hands, and then VALVE do an 180 and do this.
I bet they are at there office right now thinking like crazy: WE NEED to come up with something FAST while the community here is getting more and more annoyed with that we don't get anything what so ever.

I have red both that they can easily take the money and run now when FB have bought them up, and in that way escape the explosion of HATE the community will unleash before it calm down and ppl by VALVE and remember Oculus as a PC HMD that turned ugly and went Mobile.

OR

Its just that what MR. Palmer said long ago. Our PC HMD is leaps and bounds away from DK2.
DK2 is already month old tech ppl are using and the real version will be top of the line.
I rely do want to trust him ppl, I rely do, but as many of you are saying: I am saving my money now, but no longer for OR, I am saving them for VALVE VR HMD and if Oculus stay this silent I don't care what they show in juli or in October.
TO LITTLE TO LATE.

And its probably not even Palmer and Mr.. Johns fault. I bet my ass on its that ugly Facebook that is showing its face and slowing everything down to a crawl so they can release there shit. Because face it . Facebook don't care about competition in gaming and PC, they re a community. They have money that's it. They don't give a shit about anything else.
VR games on PC? Money? People waiting on the forum with question? HA ... fuck the VR community... We just bought OR and if they want news, log in to facebook ... errr.

/Sry my bad english

[Gritten]

I really don't think Oculus is shaking in their boots over the Valve/HTC Vive. I do believe they have likely had some "Well damn...wasn't expecting that" over the announcements from Valve coming all at once. They knew development was taking place so overall Oculus wouldn't be scrambling to figure things out. I'm definitely interested in both HMD's and am ready to watch the show with my bag of popcorn.

I do believe that the ball has been dropped on the PC community a little though. This comes from following the progress since near the beginning from Kickstarter. Oculus has always been pretty transparent, but that transparency has died off over the past year. There's very few updates. No real communication into the progress of the hardware or the software. We're at a point where an update should have been released with fixes that people have issues with. There's still tons of drive rissues, the black screen on extended with AMD or the fatal crashes on direct mode. In the past six months there should have been /some/ progress made and updates given to developers to test and help sort out the issues.

In the meantime the GearVR has been released as a full consumer product. From zero to release yet still not a lot of information on the PC OVR. Now the GearVR 2 has been announced...and will likely see the light of day before before the rift does. I know they haven't but from a consumer/community perspective it really looks like the focus has shifted completely to mobile VR.

[Iviw40]

"Gritten" wrote:
From a consumer/community perspective it really looks like the focus has shifted completely to mobile VR.

I agree with your text but that part was the thing you hit perfect on 🙂

I bought the Dev kit 1 and Dev kit 2 also in hopes on that there focus were PC FIRST
Now its seems (as you say) as the main focus is on mobile and that make me and a lot of other ppl go WTF?

As you say, The dev kit 2 have a lot of errors, black screens, crashes, games not working as they should and so on.
And what have they done about it? Nothing what so ever. There is no news about a update, no news about what's going on, no news about how we the "ppl" maybe can fix it ourselves... Its like the devs have shifted there focus just to mobile and I have no idea what is going on in there minds.

Yea I understand that the mobile market is a HUGE one if they get VR in there but it feels like they are just
closing the doors on all the PC ppl that bought there dev kits because they thought PC was the NR1 focus and mobile would be done AFTER the CV1 or at least around when CV1 will be released.

Now a lot of people sit here like now what? Wasn't PC first? And while other companies pushes VR forward HARD the ppl in the office at oculus is like. But But But ... Mobile is what we only wanna talk about ...and You have to wait 4 news about CV1.

I understand that, rely I do. But common - The ppl owning a PC and standing at the door to VR you DON'T want turn your back on (not that they have done it) but as you say, Dev kit 2 have a lot of errors and no news about anything how to fix it is just ridicules from there side. And the ppl owning a PC is a HUGE market and they don't want that market to go past them.

They will release there product 4 sure. Its not like Oculus Rift on PC is cancelled and saying that it will never happen is just crazy, but if they come out with a date that is AFTER the HTC one I fear that Oculus Will be dead in the water and just a "gimmick" while HTC version is called the "real" VR (as I had hoped Oculus would have been called)

The only chance I see OR being more popular then HTC version if it comes out after that version is released is the price and if they ad leap motion or that other "thing" they just bought. If the HTC version is like 800$ and oculus release there version for 500$ with built in stuff so you dont need controllers we still have a winner hands down imo because price goes first and we all know that Oculus Rift is actually a Rely rely good product and if they ad that stuff, then we are at the same page as HTC, maybe even further because we dont even need controllers.

[Sharpfish]

I think oculus knew so don't think they dropped the ball, I think they purposely allowed Valve to take the ball and agreed on different focus for VR YEAR ONE.

Which is nice for Oculus less nice for us Rift fans who bought into the idea of PC VR eh?

I can not wait to make valve a little bit richer. 🙂

[snappahead]

From the man himself:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comment ... ?context=3

Seems pretty clear to me.

[Twitchmonkey]

Shame Palmer only uses Reddit and never posts here. I mean I get why he wouldn't want to be here now with the level of negativity floating around, but it seems like more communication from the Oculus team might lead to more positivity. Either that or we'd just pick apart everything he said to conform to our own preconceptions about Oculus' intentions. Seems like it's worth a shot, though.

[Sharpfish]

"Snappahead" wrote:
From the man himself:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comment ... ?context=3

Seems pretty clear to me.

You reckon? it sounds like the same thing he's been saying... forever. Doesn't address anything at all given the deeper take on their mobile focus and it's (negative) knock on effects to PC VR (in general - not just the CV1 but the 'console port' syndrome and 'lowest common denominator' factors).

Soundbites from Palmer don't carry the same weight they once did I'm afraid. It's time for the guy to talk in full not in vague denials and reassurances.

[snappahead]

"Sharpfish" wrote:

"Snappahead" wrote:
From the man himself:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comment ... ?context=3

Seems pretty clear to me.

You reckon? it sounds like the same thing he's been saying... forever. Doesn't address anything at all given the deeper take on their mobile focus and it's (negative) knock on effects to PC VR (in general - not just the CV1 but the 'console port' syndrome and 'lowest common denominator' factors).

Soundbites from Palmer don't carry the same weight they once did I'm afraid. It's time for the guy to talk in full not in vague denials and reassurances.

I won't get into why I think mobile is good for vr again, but we just disagree on that front. We also disagree on this apparent belief that you have that Oculus only wants to focus on mobile at the expense of everything else. I see no evidence of that. Quite the contrary actually..including Palmer himself saying so. What you choose to call a sound bite, I call a simple statement. A statement he felt compelled to make. Their philosophy seems to be the same as it ever was. PC gaming inspired the creation of the Rift and as far as I can tell, it still does.

[Twitchmonkey]

I think they've dropped the ball on marketing and communication, we won't know if they've dropped the ball on the CV1 until it's 2016 and they still haven't released anything. Even then, though they will lose out on a lot of potential customers they could still release something great eventually. I certainly think it's presumptuous to say they won't release something great for PC, they're a pretty big company with a fair amount of resources, I don't see why they can't do mobile and PC well, especially given how similar the technologies are. I just wish they would give us an update, because right now it's seeming like a release is a long way away.

[snappahead]

"Twitchmonkey" wrote:
I think they've dropped the ball on marketing and communication, we won't know if they've dropped the ball on the CV1 until it's 2016 and they still haven't released anything. Even then, though they will lose out on a lot of potential customers they could still release something great eventually. I certainly think it's presumptuous to say they won't release something great for PC, they're a pretty big company with a fair amount of resources, I don't see why they can't do mobile and PC well, especially given how similar the technologies are. I just wish they would give us an update, because right now it's seeming like a release is a long way away.

Fair enough. What would they be marketing at this stage? Beyond public demos, what would you have them do right now when the cv1 has even been revealed.