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Meta lowers VR age restriction to 10 with new account type

kojack
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I'm not sure if its rolled out yet, but Meta is adding a new account type for children aged 10-12.

https://www.meta.com/en-gb/blog/quest/meta-accounts-parent-managed-families/

These accounts are managed by a parent account.

Some features:

  • Only a normal account (what we have now for 13+) can make a child account.
  • Settings default to everything private, unless the parent's account choose otherwise.
  • Child accounts will be able to cast so parents can watch (normally only primary accounts can cast, not secondary accounts).
  • Parental control of apps and time limits.
  • No ads.
  • Child accounts won't have access to this forum.

Horizon Worlds won't have it's age limits changed, it will remain 13+ for US/Canada and 18+ for Europe (and blocked for everyone not in the 7 supported regions).

 

Hopefully this makes things safer for children than if they just lie and use a normal account.

 

Here's the VR family centre with more info: https://familycenter.meta.com/au/our-products/quest/

 

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Interesting, not sure I trust parents enough to supervise sufficiently to warrant the change. Having used Horizons a lot, I'm glad that at least isn't changing.

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AliceinVRworld
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Mmmh I had just logged back on just now seeing this post. Thank you @kojack for sharing this information. 

We are all mad here.

I think this is a good move with some sensible restrictions.  

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Zenbane
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My main question is around IPD. Since I'm always concerned about my young son using VR, as his eye distance is still too small. Does IPD for kids get in to adult range at age 10?

Sorry, I'm too lazy to google the answer as of typing this post 😋

kojack
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After a little googling, I saw mentions of IPD continuing to increase until around the age of 20.

Kids 5 years old average 51mm.

I don't know how close to adult IPD they would be at 10. But that's going to be an issue.

 

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I'm seeing in a lot of places that the average IPD for a child is 43 - 58.  If we were to assume that's from ages 0 to 16 the 10 year old might be around 53mm if it were to go up in a perfect linear fashion.

Adults range between 54 and 74 while "The large majority (95 percentile) of adult males in the USA have a pupillary distance of 70mm"


Maybe this gives an insight into the Quest 3?  Does it go lower?

Quest 2 lens spacing - 58, 63 and 68 https://www.meta.com/en-gb/help/quest/articles/getting-started/getting-started-with-quest-2/ipd-ques...

 

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oscar.blake.2023
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I'm glad Meta allows kids to try VR, but I'd like more research on how it affects their development.

I thought about IPD but there's also no variable focus. Fine for us old fogies who already have hardened lenses, but I would have thought not ideal for children who should be exercising those focusing muscles.

I guess it depends on how many hours the young kids are limited to and that's going to be up to the parents to set. I know from Horizons that a few parents appear to be using the headset as a pacifier for very young kids. They get kicked out as soon as it's obvious how young they are but that's because of the self moderating tools built into the app.

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@DaftnDirect wrote:

I know from Horizons that a few parents appear to be using the headset as a pacifier for very young kids.


That's what my sister would do (and was going to).

Her 9 and 6 year old daughters wanted VR headsets to play roblox. My sister was going to buy them a headset each, and I know she would do zero supervision, just give them the headsets and then go back to browsing facebook on her phone all day. I was able to talk her out of it. Not too hard once I explained she'd need 2 gaming PCs too to run Roblox.

(I've put both of them in VR when they were 6 and 3. They loved a lego world 360 panorama gallery, and the youngest one thought Bogo was real and kept reaching out to try to pat it. But I carefully supervised them and limited the time)

 

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