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Oculus is losing the race

EarlGrey
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The race to consumer VR is on and it seems many have joined the race.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/11/carl-zeiss-vr-one-is-a-99-answer-to-the-samsung-gear-vr/

There are many other examples. The race is hot!


Still the consumer version of Oculus Rift is nowhere in sight, after more than 2 years in development. We're all waiting for that killer VR experience on the PC, but Oculus seems to be spending a lot of effort on R&D.

Sure they might release the best VR headset that will be available to the consumer, but it will cost $400 while some cheap crap can be picked up for under $100. We all know the history of that sort of competition, the cheap crap wins every time.

In the end Oculus will have maybe 10% market share in VR devices. They will not be able to compete with a technology superior device that costs $400 vs. a $100 cheap clone for China that works just well enough.

In the beginning people are mostly curious about VR and not maybe ready to spend $400 for a HMD, but maybe $100 just to try out a cheap one.


3 years from now we'll look In retrospect and figure out what happened, but the answer is clear, Oculus waited too long to release a consumer VR headset and allowed everyone to play catch up and maybe beat them to the punch.

Time is running out, they have maybe less than 6 months to release a HMD.
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pedrw
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I read every single word of the thread before I made my comment, and it stands (you are posting on a public forum; it makes little sense to be surprised by "random" people chiming in).

After coming back today and reading the rest of the thread, I am starting to think you are a guy with bigger issues than the Rift, and are unlikely to be fully capable of understanding what people are trying to get across to you.
Your comments don't make any sense pedrw; they are the broken concepts of a childish mentality that is blinded by its own belligerence.
If you can't see what people are trying to guide you to terms with (the SDE and low resolution have been talked about extensively; it is your fault that you weren't aware of the issues), why not give up your DK2 to somebody who appreciates it rather than come here and complain that you were tricked or treated unfairly?

You have to understand, you are just making yourself look silly.


"Silly" is you. And people who think like you. I'm not going to continue arguing with fundamentalist people. I'm 16 and I love the real life. Thank God!

Do not like my opinion? So get used to, because my generation is demanding and not settle so easily...

richardrsc
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"pedrw" wrote:
I'm 16...


Ah yes, that would explain it. 🙂

pedrw
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"richardrsc" wrote:
"pedrw" wrote:
I'm 16...


Ah yes, that would explain it. 🙂



But that does not explain the lack of wisdom and self criticism, people like you...

aminemo
Explorer
I found the perfect product for you
With zero screen door 8-)

😄

f15sim
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...and it's age appropriate!

g.

snappahead
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"richardrsc" wrote:
"pedrw" wrote:
I'm 16...


Ah yes, that would explain it. 🙂

Indeed. If only he came out and said "I'm 16" to begin the thread.

You're adorable little buddy.
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cybereality
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I think Palmer was 16 when I first met him online (but at the time I had no clue).

Age is no guarantee of intelligence or maturity.
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willste
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"pedrw" wrote:
"ThreeEyes" wrote:
"pedrw" wrote:
All people who have experienced my DK2 were disappointed with the poor image quality, and said that they felt very nauseous...

The "Screen door effect" continues in "Crescent Bay"?


You do realize that a lot of that depends on computer setup and if you can hit target frame rates. It also depends on what you are showing them.

It's not worth much to just say everybody has been disappointed with the image quality and felt very nauseous without full disclosure.

As a counterpoint, everyone who has seen my DK2 has been very impressed - both with display quality as well as the presentations in general. And the only time anyone has felt nauseous has been riding along in DCS on playing back a track where I was doing aerobatics.


I was just saying that, after all, "the king is not wearing any clothes"

I think you are giving too much importance to what I say.
Blabla ... it seems the problem is that nowadays you can not tell what you think. Unless you think the same as most people think ...

Oculus Rift is a new sect ? It seems that there is too much bigotry ...
Oops ... sorry! I committed a sin because it showed the reality to my friends... LOL
I should have chosen the best games to hide the "screen door effect"

I would have bought Oculus Rift anyway. But I would rather have known before, that the resolution is poor, because of the "screen door effect" .

only this


We are all aware the resolution by today's HD standards sucks. It was a surprise for me with DK1. When I got DK2 I knew that the resolution wasn't going to be the best and that was part of the reason why this is a development kit.

Another person's description unfortunately could not have prepared you for it because it is a very subjective thing. Some people are more tolerant of the low res than others for one reason or another.

Just make sure you get a chance to try CV1 before you buy it and there will be no problem. Everyone is stuck with pretty much the same screen technology for the next few years so I don't expect drastic difference's from other platforms. If anything Oculus and Sony will likely have slightly better HMD's because they have access to the most advanced screen tech.

Oculus has now apparently also shown that picking the right optics can make a big difference as well.

I suppose someone needs to go partner with LG.

snappahead
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"cybereality" wrote:
I think Palmer was 16 when I first met him online (but at the time I had no clue).

Age is no guarantee of intelligence or maturity.

No, but I think it's safe to say that Palmer wasn't exactly the standard 16 year old.
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ThreeEyes
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And where one guy thinks he knows it all and is proud to complain that the state of the art isn't good enough, another goes out and keeps advancing the state of the art, built an amazing company, and is actually producing something.
But... but... but... I just NEED to know about the Baba! The Baba has me hypmotized! :shock: