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Rough guess when CV2 will be out?

Apocolyptica
Explorer
Just curious will the CV1 I pre-ordered be obsolete in a year?
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Anonymous
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hopefully not for another 4 or 5 years, we spent alot of money on cv1's, i aint buying nothing new for a lonnnggggg time

obzen
Expert Protege
Depends on the technological advancements, and how well the CV1 is going. A year at least.
DK1 FREAK...

obzen
Expert Protege
"infamouz" wrote:
hopefully not for another 4 or 5 years, we spent alot of money on cv1's, i aint buying nothing new for a lonnnggggg time


Doesn't mean that all of the sudden, it wont work no more. It might be obsolete, however I expect backward compatibility to be a non-issue. Resolution may improve, refresh rates may improve, even the transport (HDMI 2.0, Displayport), hell might even get foveated rendering, these are merely improvement rather than paradigm shifting. Like monitor resolution and say, 3D.
DK1 FREAK...

sdplayer
Expert Protege
"Depends on the technological advancements, and how well the CV1 is going..."

Yup! Ideally Oculus would like to release every 3 or 4 years but the race will soon be on to launch the first 4K (or better) headset and Oculus will need to keep up with its competitors if it doesn't want to become the next Nintendo!

Anonymous
Not applicable
You forget that any significant improvements to Resolution or FOV needs to be accompanied by a boost in power performance from the PC side.

The Rise of VR is absolutely hard tied to the technology that pushes the experiences.

I would think the future of VR is mobile.. but not in the sense of Gear VR, more in line that a HMD will be able to connect to multiple devices and given the power of exponential growth it is not too hard to imagine a point where your phone has the same power as the top end pc's of today and beyond.

There maybe new iterations that take advantage of better ergonomics / hand tracking / optics however.

Think of the CV1 as the first apple Iphone.... the Iphone 6S is very very similar, just faster with better performance.... but essentially the same.

Ultimately CV1 is not going to be made obsolete directly... just as having a phone two generations old isn't.

2 - 3 years.

People are talking about buying a 980 ti for the CV1, bringing out a CV2 will mean higher specs and a higher spec'd machine to run it.

People will be fuming if it's less than 2 years. Also, i'd hate to see a CV2 which is slightly better than the first.
Big PC, all the headsets, now using Quest 3

Anonymous
Not applicable
"andyring" wrote:
2 - 3 years.

People are talking about buying a 980 ti for the CV1, bringing out a CV2 will mean higher specs and a higher spec'd machine to run it.

People will be fuming if it's less than 2 years. Also, i'd hate to see a CV2 which is slightly better than the first.


No need to buy a TI... most experiences are being written to run fine on the 970 or equivalent... and that's just 3.5gb of vram.

EarlGrey
Expert Protege
CV2 will be out in 2018 the earliest. Maybe.

CV1 won't reach mainstream retail reach until Q3-Q4 this year, and I guess they'll want to keep selling CV1 units for maybe 12-18 months after they reach saturation in distribution.

That means 2017 and 2018 is way to early for CV2. Q4 2018 maybe.


But this isn't just a question about iterate-and-release, like mobile phone makers do. There has to be a meaningful improvement in engineering and technology for a second consumer Rift. You can't just release a new headset with minor improvements and have people pay $800 for it again. This isn't such a technology that people renew frequently, like mobile phones.

Only something like 20-30% improvement in FOV, huge improvement in form factor and ergonomics, way better screens with dual 4K panels, etc. would make me interested in buying a CV2 if I already had CV1.

onefang
Explorer
"Atmos73" wrote:
Thats the thing lots of people do update their mobile phones for an incremental change like some people buy new cars every 2 years just because they want the latest reg.


I think that's mostly driven by the telco's contract scam. Lock you into a 24 month contract by pretending you aren't really paying for the phone, then you get to "not" pay for a new phone all over again for the next 24 months. Not seeing that happen for HMDs.

Atreyu
Explorer
I believe Luckey said it would be somewhere between the frequency of mobiles and consoles. If I was running the company I would probably study how often active but not hard core gamers upgrade their graphics cards/computers. With this in mind, I am guessing a CV2 Q4 2018 at the earliest. Q1 2018 is going to be the year you get the CV1 for $350, and the CV2 will release at $449