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Seems all's not lost for Vive owners

JohnnyDioxin
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Saw this on YT this morning - don't know how well known it is, but looks like Vive owners got lucky...

https://youtu.be/2ckPBhIlkX0

Interesting - changing just the lenses for a better view. Oculus must have got it as good as they can, otherwise surely we would have seen aftermarket lenses appear?


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KlodsBrik
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No, he is once again saying, as so many other persons have, stop hating and start using your eyes instead of your butt whenever you have an hmd strapped on .. VR is much more comfortable and usefull that way ... Honestly !
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Atmos73 said:

Well it’s F8 tomorrow let’s wait and see what resolution, FOV and price point CV2 is going to be announced at. Oh wait....


How relevant in a discussion about swapping HTC Vive lenses...

Don't feed the troll.
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Anonymous
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Atmos73 said:

So what you’re saying is a future Oculus HMD with a launch window of between 2019-2020 is going to be better than a HTC HMD that’s on sale now in early 2018? Well thank you for that revelation I can sleep easy tonight. 



And even if HTC make yet ANOTHER crazy business decision and launch a THIRD headset next year it will STILL be beat by anything that Oculus releases. HTC are simply too far behind in the game and have no hope of catching up.

You can see from all of those comments that @Zenbane posted how unhappy most Vive owners are about the release of the Vive Pro. You won't even have 10% of current home consumer Vive owners buying the Vive Pro, some will go to the Pimax and the rest will go for the CV2 next year.

HTC will probably end up going bust over this which is terrible for VR. I can't believe that the company are continuing to make the same mistakes with their VR division that fucked up their mobile division almost beyond the point of no return. 😞

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Atmos73 said:

If the lenses in the Rift were as easily removable as they are in the Vive then you’d see the same number of people swap them out too to get rid of the Godrays.

Why does the GearVR have better lenses than the Rift? 


I am not sure that the GearVR lenses are actually better - they are just different. They come with their own flaws compared to the Fresnel lenses used in both the Rift and the Vive.

I have read the reasons for going with Fresnel lenses - and fortunately as a glasses wearer for over 20 years I seem to have developed an immunity to the annoying effect of godrays (not that I don't see them, I am just able to look past and forget about them most of the time without issue).

I hope that the next gen lenses offer up the benefits of both types of lenses (light weight of the Fresnel lenses, with the clarity of the GearVR lenses).

OmegaM4N
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Anybody up for taking their PSVR apart and trying to put the lenses into the Rift so we can say goodby to almost all the SDE and remove god rays completely, that would be the perfect VR headset for me, the crystal clarity of the PSVR with the comfort, weight and motion controls of the Rift.

So come on, who has the balls to put £650 of VR hardware at stake. lol
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Zenbane
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The first person to screw up the switching of lenses will end up with damaged eyeballs and try to take legal action against HTC.

Vive owners just need to upgrade to the Pro. Yes the price is high, yes the angry comments are funny, but it's the smarter route if better optics are really an urgent goal.

Oh and yeah,



Zenbane said:

The first person to screw up the switching of lenses will end up with damaged eyeballs and try to take legal action against HTC.

Vive owners just need to upgrade to the Pro. Yes the price is high, yes the angry comments are funny, but it's the smarter route if better optics are really an urgent goal.

Oh and yeah,





Oh, i thought it was the Pro they were upgrading with the Gear VR lenses...
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Hiro_Protag0nist said:
Oh, i thought it was the Pro they were upgrading with the Gear VR lenses...



No, it's the original Vive. Any Vivarians who haven't upgraded to Pro seem to have been left behind in the industry; so they've resorted to DIY to prevent it from becoming literal Vaporware.



Anonymous
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Zenbane said:

The first person to screw up the switching of lenses will end up with damaged eyeballs and try to take legal action against HTC.

Vive owners just need to upgrade to the Pro. Yes the price is high, yes the angry comments are funny, but it's the smarter route if better optics are really an urgent goal.

Oh and yeah,





The optics haven't changed at all, just the displays. This is why some people are replacing the lenses with Gear VR lenses in their Vive Pros too.

Oculus are just too far ahead of everyone else when it comes to these sort of things. They're at least 2 years ahead and several billion dollars ahead of everyone else. It's why I got a Rift instead of a Vive this generation and why I'm probably going to do the same thing next generation too.

I wish I had a Vive dev kit though, HTC will most likely go down as the first VR manufacturer to go bust so these things may be collector's items lol 😄 😄 😄