After the EULA post, i started to browse treads in reddit and i found about this problem, i would like to know why it happens. It has to do with the AMOLED matrix? for example, the capacitor in the pixel circuit delaying the pixel due to charge time? or what is the reason of this problem.
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"jngdwe" wrote: I just wonder if its possible to really come close to black with the OLED panel not turning off the pixels. Let's not forget, Light Emitting Diodes (Diodes in general) have a certain voltage threshold that must be reached before they start to conduct. It's possible that the LEDs will have a minimum lit value that might not be as dark as we would prefer.
"nicorose" wrote: Should be no Problem to Add the 1/1/1 minium for the Screen instead of 0/0/0 direct in the displaycontroler or the SDK itself. So the Display would never render a 0/0/0 even its in the Game.
As far as i know this was done by Samsung before to avoid the smeer on mobilephones.
i think its not easy, i read that not fix the problem, that reduce a bit an change the color of the issue to green, the problem its not 0/0/0, its big fast contrast change. And from 1/1/1/ to example 200/200/200 its almost the same to 0/0/0 to 200...
anyway be so or otehrwise, they have a fix for mimice that.
PD: yes my english its bad i known
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"jngdwe" wrote: I just wonder if its possible to really come close to black with the OLED panel not turning off the pixels. Let's not forget, Light Emitting Diodes (Diodes in general) have a certain voltage threshold that must be reached before they start to conduct. It's possible that the LEDs will have a minimum lit value that might not be as dark as we would prefer.
In that video, Paul James talks about the inky blacks. At about 2:50, you will hear him say "...The blacks are perfectly black...".
I love how he loses himself in the demo at 7:40.
I'm not referring to the actual contrast of the OLED. I'm talking about the possibility of keeping the pixels slightly lit to reduce the black smearing. Keeping them lit, even a tiny bit, might produce a drastic drop in contrast due to the operation of LEDs.
In that video, Paul James talks about the inky blacks. At about 2:50, you will hear him say "...The blacks are perfectly black...".
But looking at the video, at least how it's displaying in YouTube, you can see the barrel windows that the Rift is displaying, against the black "fill", and the difference is there.. the "true black" of the sky does not appear to be true black at all (0,0,0). Taking it into Photoshop, it shows up as 0,3,4. Now, I know that's not exactly scientific, between how the game is rendering, how it's displaying on the mirror display, how it's being captured, whatever YouTube is doing to it, etc. But the "blackness of space" versus the areas of the screen that aren't displaying anything at all (which show up even on YouTube as 0,0,0) is clearly different. The pixels are being powered and are displaying something, therefore no black smear.
In regards to the comment about them being "perfectly black", I would imagine is due to the OLED displaying simply being much darker, when displaying very low color values like 0,3,4, than an LCD would be when displaying those same values, because of the tiny amount of light leakage inherent to LCD technology that OLEDs don't have.
And from 1/1/1/ to example 200/200/200 its almost the same to 0/0/0 to 200...
Not from my understanding... Because in 0/0/0 position they are complete "powerless".. And its the "repowering" what causes this artefacts. From complete Off to on. As far as i know.
If you leave them "on" with 1/1/1. There is no need for repowering from the complete "Off" state.
This green shadows could be because the green Oleds are more intense than the others. So maybe they should test it with RGB 2/1/2 as lowest value.
I dont have my DK2 yet, so i cannot check ths out. :cry:
And from 1/1/1/ to example 200/200/200 its almost the same to 0/0/0 to 200...
Not from my understanding... Because in 0/0/0 position they are complete "powerless".. And its the "repowering" what causes this artefacts. From complete Off to on. As far as i know.
If you leave them "on" with 1/1/1. There is no need for repowering from the complete "Off" state.
This green shadows could be because the green Oleds are more intense than the others. So maybe they should test it with RGB 2/1/2 as lowest value.
I dont have my DK2 yet, so i cannot check ths out. :cry:
i say that because someone check that with technolust demo (a dev i think) I not remember where i read that perhaps in reddit.
PD: yes my english its bad i known
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"ThreeEyes" wrote: Yes, I can see it in Tuscany but in my opinion it really isn't that big of a deal. I actually had to look for it to see it and it is there.
If all the reports of black smear have anyone freaked out or concerned, don't be. It's just my opinion, but I think the issue is overblown.
Issue is overblown?..no, not in this community. Never happened;)
"ThreeEyes" wrote: Yes, I can see it in Tuscany but in my opinion it really isn't that big of a deal. I actually had to look for it to see it and it is there.
If all the reports of black smear have anyone freaked out or concerned, don't be. It's just my opinion, but I think the issue is overblown.
