08-02-202410:59 PM - last edited on 08-05-202410:34 AM by TheAntiSocializer
I have just watched a YouTube video where it mentioned Meta are adding an adaptive brightness 'feature' to help make blacks blacker in dark scenes.
I hate... HATE auto-brightness. Unless Meta find a way of isolating the brightness of individual pixels, the whole scene will get darker, not just the bits in shadow. I have a Samsung TV which has this auto brightness built in, probably some eco feature. Watching The Expanse was a nightmare because every time there was a scene in space, the TV detected the ambient brightness, which was mainly dark because it was in space and so turned the entire scene's brightness down, rendering the whole image difficult to see - the stars dimmed, the people in the scene dimmed, everything dimmed.
I hate auto-exposure too. It's a VR headset (or a large monitor 40cm from my eyes in a dim room). It is providing a pretty decent light source and when it's a dark scene my eyes have to adjust because there is minimal light leakage through the headset. My eyes already have to adjust naturally so when a game adds that effect I find it really jarring.
Anyhoo, please keep this feature optional Meta. Oh, if the adaptive brightness can target individual pixels, then forget everything I have just said! (Except for the auto exposure, that just plain sucks.)
@andysonofbob Well, if after actually trying it and deciding you don't like it, then just don't use it, and report why. Looks like it's an experimental option right now. I haven't got v68 on my Q3 yet so I can't voice an opinion. I do have v68 on my QPro but I don't see this option, probably because the QPro already has local dimming.
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As long as it remains toggleable. Auto-exposure is often a baked in setting requiring mods to remove or to tweak the effect so to make it less intrusive e.g. like the following games with baked in auto-exposure...
"Unless Meta find a way of isolating the brightness of individual pixels"
Impossible, That's OLED tech. OLED is expensive. 🫰LCD tech is what quest uses, and you can't change the brightness per pixel. That's what adaptive brightness helps with, makes LCD act a little like OLED.
Adaptive brightness can do wonders on certain types of games and as long as you can turn in on and off, why not have it? In dark horror type games in which the scene is supposed to be dark but looks dark grey due to LCD tech, I would love to be able to try this out. You see in dark scenes, the backlight bleeds through and if turning the brightness down a notch can get us to a more pure black then I'm all for it. Now I agree that I'm not a huge fan of it on tv's because there are so few scenes that are pure dark which is why I bought an OLED 🙂
I think the problem is that it dims the whole scene, not just the shadows.
If you enjoy a good horror game, like I do, load up Outlast on your PC and see for yourself. Lower brightness. Go to a slightly dark scene and lower it a bit, go to a very dark scene and lower it a lot. An already dark scene becomes too dark with objects the developers expect/want you to see (albiet barely) become shadowed themselves. I don't like it anyway.
It's bad enough on a TV but my experience from VR games that have it baked in, is that it is far worse in VR as your whole view is affected.
I personally don't remotely find dimming the whole scene, including the light sources, immersive. To me it feels like a cheap hack that causes a major problem, seeking to solve one.
But, if this is a toggle-able feature and remains toggle-able forever, and doesn't become a baked in eco-feature like on my Samsung TV, then forget everything I have said! 🙂
It will almost certainly become a toggle within the currently extremely sparse Display section in Settings.
Don't like it? Don't use it. Same deal as being able to set a warmer color temperature or whatever else, people who want it can use it and those who don't won't. Not every single feature added has to cater to you specifically, chill.
This was just released on PTC V69 on August 14th, it will slowly be added in our settings as well with an Advanced settings, and other options im seeing. V68 will not received it, it was pushed to V69
