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Wait for Pimax Crystal Light or get quest 3?

monkk
Honored Guest
So i have a quest 2 wich i have been using only for pc vr trough virtual desktop. What really anois me is the compresion . I don't know what everyone is sayng like they don't notice it. And i have good wifi the prism xr pupis s1. Also the hoghets latency in VD is the decoding so thats why I've been considering the quest 3. But I'm also interested in the pimax crystal light because it has higher resolution and native display port. (I really don't mind the wire)
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Oooh, this is difficult.  Difficult for me because I don't like saying bad things about other products but Pimax users have had so many issues over the years - delays and software config the main things whereas for the vast majority of people the Quests just work (apologies to those who still have Link issues).

With a Quest 3 and good network and PC the image should be stunning and rock solid.  Are you following best practices:
Have your PC connected to a router/access point via Ethernet cable
Headset should be connected to Wi-Fi via 5 GHz band (AC or AX)
Router in the same room as the headset or in line of sight, and at least 1 m off the ground
Air Link works best with non-mesh network configuration

And what are your PC specs (do you have a 4080+?

 

Big PC, all the headsets, now using Quest 3

This is maybe the first Pimax that I'm excited about.

I wouldn't pre-order though for the reasons @Hiro_Protag0nist says, I'd definitely wait for regular (non-youtuber) user reviews before making a decision, especially those who have both headsets to compare. Maybe spend a bit of time on the Pimax forum too, seems like a pretty decent forum.

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TheAntiSocializer
Retired Support

I might be a bit biased but I'd definitely recommend the Quest 3. I've had such a fun time with it so far. 

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HC093HE
Explorer

Not sure if this topic is still actual but being a Pimax Crystal user, owning the Quest, Quest 2 and HP Reverb G2 next to the Pimax Crystal (not light) I've just ordered the Quest 3 which should arrive tomorrow. Reason for that: the clarity of the Crystal is unrivaled currently (my opinion) but that's it. On arrival of the Pimax, my USB hub was dead and support told me to buy another one (gave me an amazon link) as they have some known issues and can't provide a replacement. The holder for the battery is just poorly designed and changing the battery is a challenge (have to use force to push the button). But the biggest issue is the shape of the HMD: I've a rather narrow (but still normal) head shape with a symmetric IPD of 60mm. The shape of the faceplate is rather wide and the HMD sits just on a point on my forehead making the HMD wobble a lot. This causes picture quality issues and trying other face plates, straps, etc. didn't really solve the problem as well (Oh, BTW got another amazon link from support what could be bought to solve the issue). Next to software issues, I had to replace the lenses, the wide FOV lenses are still not available and since last week I have strange display distortions on the left side, support of Pimax tells me it's software related but it also occurs on the start screen and therefor I think it's hardware related. At the end I might have to ship my unit to China to get it checked / replaced. Maybe I was just unlucky but the overall experience is not great at all. Had more troubleshooting times than playtime. Compared to the Quests (which were plug and play without bigger issues) and using the link cable the overall experience is better with Meta, picture quality of Crystal is way better. For me a Quest with the picture quality of the Crystal would be perfect but as I want to play instead of engineer, I'm moving to the Quest 3 and accept some downgrade in picture quality

Thanks for the info, yeah this thread is definitely still active.

When you say you've owned the Quest 2 and the Crystal... are you comparing the clarity of those two? or have tried the Quest 3 and comparing it with that? The clarity of Q2 and Q3 are night and day in my opinion because of the pancake lenses giving edge to edge sharpness, the PPD uplift adds to the visuals of course but the lenses contribute more in my opinion.

Just curious which headsets you're comparing.

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HC093HE
Explorer

Currently I can just compare Quest 2 / Reverb G2 to the Crystal but tomorrow I'll be able to add the Quest 3 experience as well (got already the delivery confirmation). From the numbers and reading several emails I don't expect the Quest 3 being equal with the Crystal in regards of picture quality but will share my impression tomorrow after some initial testing.

HC093HE
Explorer

Finally the Quest 3 arrived and is set up, connected with the D-Link DWA-F18 VR Air Bridge to my PC (will try the cable connection from my Quest 2 as well) and tested in some games on PC. First impression after some time playing DCS, MSFS and Half-Life: Alyx: Image quality of the Pimax Crystal is better than the Quest 3. It's clearer, sharper and no screen door effect at all BUT when you have never seen a game in the Crystal before, I'd say the Quest 3 is doing a great job and is a huge step forward from a Reverb G2 or Q2.

My conclusion after a short test without tweaking and optimizing my system for the Quest 3: I'll stick to the Quest 3 and most probably sell the Crystal. Setup and usability of the Quest is really straight forward and I had no issues with setup and initial configuration and the wireless connection is just so much better from my experience than the cable from the Crystal (or even worse the G2) that the pros of the whole experience overrules the clearer picture of the Crystal. And after replacing the standard head strap with the elite one the comfort is day and night (at least for me). But as always in VR: this is my personal experience which might be a totally different one for someone else. I'm happy with my Quest 3 and will store the Crystal until I've decided to sell it or keep it as backup.