What Can the DK2 IR Camera See?

[InteriorD]

Hello OculusVR,

I'm a DK2 owner who would like to know what sort of images the DK2 camera could see. A picture of what the DK2 can 'see' would be super helpful. This is for security purposes. I'm sure we would all feel a bit more secure if we know for a fact that the DK2 camera can't see the pudgy/scrawny/well-toned bodies under our clothing while we're standing around with our mouths agape.

On a side note, I'm trying to strap the Leap Motion Controller onto the DK2 but despite listening to the community's advice, I'm unable to locate the IR light emitters on the DK2. It would be very helpful if you can let me know where they are so I won't obstruct it.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

"menione" wrote:
You're underestimating voyeuristic tendencies in human nature. Why do you think reality television was such a hit?

ok..lets go with that.

it takes something like 300 hours of film to make one hour of reality tv. this is assuming it is not a semiscripted or outright scripted program like most reality tv is.

even if you cut out half of it due to bad angles in that 150 hours of life. only fourty minutes of it is remotely exciting to view. and that is after the mundane stuff is snipped out to make everyone seem as crazy as possible (i was a low level assistant during the second season of big brother, trust met that shit is BORING though they have perfected the art of getting them drunk and goading them but thats probably one of the more 'realistic' reality shows) . honestly think about what you are doing while using your computer/laptop. assuming you are actually infront of the screen. how exciting will you typing or watching youtube be to a voyer? maybe they catch you watching porn. or undressing or something. and yes its creepy and a violation of your privacy. but its still not oculus to blame. all of these programs that let people into your computer are malicious bits of code that you unwittingly download. be it by clicking on a lick or downloading some file. or they are using a security risk from an outdated program with high level access to your pc. java, and flash and norton are the biggest. its not your camera, its your pc.

[InteriorD]

At this point, I think this discussion has veered way off topic and is now on a bad trajectory. I'm not a mod, and I know I fanned the flames a bit, but let's keep things within acceptable distance of the topic before the mods get involved.

Let me rephrase my original question:

"Ignoring the implications for surveillance and privacy, what exactly is the DK2 Camera capable of seeing without any hardware modifications?"

[SinisterSalad]

Just put on your tin foil hat and everything will be OK.

[menione]

"Freebirth001" wrote:
ok..lets go with that.

it takes something like 300 hours of film to make one hour of reality tv. this is assuming it is not a semiscripted or outright scripted program like most reality tv is.

You realize they could easily just tape it and fast forward to the interesting bits.

[andrewtek]

"InteriorD" wrote:
Let me rephrase my original question:

"Ignoring the implications for surveillance and privacy, what exactly is the DK2 Camera capable of seeing without any hardware modifications?"

I thought you got an answer from the community here:
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=11385#p152510

The IR camera can take in light within the IR spectrum +/-. You might be able to get a more meaningful image than the one posted by lazydodo by processing the raw IR data differently.

Are you looking for an official answer from Oculus? If so, you might want to e-mail Ocululs support directly.

[InteriorD]

"andrewtek" wrote:

"InteriorD" wrote:
Let me rephrase my original question:

"Ignoring the implications for surveillance and privacy, what exactly is the DK2 Camera capable of seeing without any hardware modifications?"

I thought you got an answer from the community here:
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=11385#p152510

The IR camera can take in light within the IR spectrum +/-. You might be able to get a more meaningful image than the one posted by lazydodo by processing the raw IR data differently.

Are you looking for an official answer from Oculus? If so, you might want to e-mail Ocululs support directly.

You're right, I have my answer already. I wrote that so that this thread I made won't become something it wasn't meant to be.

[Travid]

I just took this picture at night with a desk lamp with NO hardware modification. All I did for processing is turn it black and white.

http://i.imgur.com/cwX7Nk7.jpg

If you're concerned about your privacy, cover it! And just to fan the flames, no the blue light on the Position Tracker did NOT light up when I was recording that picture.

Dave

[Anonymous]

Most of us own a laptop, or at least a device with a camera. Why worry about one additional camera when most people already own two or three more capable webcams? The DK2 camera is not a privacy risk in the slightest when compared to everything else we have/do.

This has to be one of the most hyped up and bizarre threads yet.

[menione]

"jngdwe" wrote:
Most of us own a laptop, or at least a device with a camera. Why worry about one additional camera when most people already own two or three more capable webcams? The DK2 camera is not a privacy risk in the slightest when compared to everything else we have/do.

This has to be one of the most hyped up and bizarre threads yet.

I think a bit of it comes from the first page where someone from Oculus said no images can be seen with this camera which was later proven false.

[soylentcola]

"jngdwe" wrote:
Most of us own a laptop, or at least a device with a camera. Why worry about one additional camera when most people already own two or three more capable webcams? The DK2 camera is not a privacy risk in the slightest when compared to everything else we have/do.

I'd say treat it like any other camera attached to your computer or other network-connected device: a very low "threat" for spying or whatever but in cases where you are concerned about such things, it's best to cover it or point it away from you.

For me that's not a big issue. I doubt I am at any real risk of having my webcam used to spy on me but at the same time, out of habit I just keep it pointed at the wall when I'm not using it. I'll probably get into the same habit with the Rift camera but for now, the odds are just so low and I'm not concerned enough to worry about it. In the end, it's still a camera hooked to your computer so treat it with the same concern (or lack thereof) that you would a webcam and things should be OK.