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What's the big deal with Facebook account needed to use (some apps on) Oculus? Why people hate this

petra.skachova
Level 4
In this thread I´d like to face the fact that many people don´t want to use Oculus as they need a Facebook account. I will list some advantages of having a FB account connected in vr, and an (obvious) solution for those who don´t want to link their personal FB account with Oculus. There might be also downsides of the Facebook integration in an overall independent and complete Oculus platform that could survive maybe without the Zuckerberg's hand on it. Let's discuss this. 
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(yes, I edited the intro to be more clear in what I wanted to express, this is the point I wanted to discuss with you). 
Let's talk about Oculus headsets and the privacy. I'd like to point out that I am not a FB fan, I only want to know your point of view, as I understood that this is a widely discussed question. 
The whole deal was to connect with your friends you already have on Facebook, in order to have someone to share your virtual experiences, apps and games with. I see no deal with this, since I myself have a Facebook account. Lately Facebook added through new firmware updates additional functions, so now you can message, chat, call and share directly with your Facebook friends. Also, Facebook Horizon is coming, and it will be a whole new level of social life.

Still, I understand that a lot of people don´t fancy the social world. I´m not a great fan of it either, as I value my privacy and don´t share my private life on these channels. I even cancelled myself from FB in the past as I didn´t see it as a necessary implementation to my life. Then I reactivated it to promote my activities and it helped actually 🙂 

It´s obvious, that every vr headset producer will ask you to log-in or create an account in order to link you with their services, to merge it with your information and to offer you a better experience. Facebook is asking for a FB account, HTC Vive and Sony will have an admission of their own, too.

I personally found a great advantage of having a FB account connected with my Oculus, because it was easy to find right away someone from my trusted contacts who also had an Oculus and we could try some apps together. Doing it alone is sometimes very boring and not the point.

With that being said - for all those who don´t want to be obliged to have a FB account to use Oculus, don´t worry. Just create a new FB account, with a name and picture you prefer, that you will use on your Oculus just for that purpose. There you can still add friends who have Oculus and you can share the experience together. It can be your secondary FB account that no one will have access to, just you and the people you want. I really don´t see such a bid deal with it. You don´t have to post there anything, no phone number, no photos, no posts. It´s your life and your privacy and that´s understandable.

It would be a pity if just this reason stopped you from discovering the amazing world of VR.
What is your opinion about it - do you agree or disagree with Facebook wanting your account connected in order to use Oculus?

P.S.: I edited the part about Xiaomi as it was not an exact and detailed information, it was not the point of the thread, so don't stick to that). I also edited the title of the thread a tiny little bit to be more clear. 

Thank you Everyone for posting your opinion! 


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kojack
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Everyone knows that after Facebook purchased the project from Xiaomi, Oculus headsets became products made and marketed by Facebook.
Xiaomi was only a partner in making the 4th released Oculus headset: the Go. Facebook bought Oculus years before that.

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kevinw729
Level 15
Lot of "revisionist" history going on from some "interesting" sources on this forum of late.
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

vannagirl
Level 12
yes, its always a danger when you read your own posts 😐
Look, man. I only need to know one thing: where they are. 

kevinw729
Level 15

vannagirl said:

yes, its always a danger when you read your own posts 😐



Nice to see you back again!
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

Zenbane
Level 15


In this thread I´d like to face the fact that many people don´t want to use Oculus as they need a Facebook account.



When I'm on Facebook itself, I always see people talking about how they don't want to use Facebook.

To be clear, people using Facebook openly state that they dislike using Facebook. Regularly.

The Oculus/Facebook situation with likely mirror this behavior.

Ray_Sover
Level 5
"What's the big deal with Facebook account needed to use Oculus? Why people hate this fact"

For any newbies coming to this thread, I'd just like to point out that it's not a fact that you need a Facebook account to use Oculus.
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RuneSR2
Level 15

Ray_Sover said:

"What's the big deal with Facebook account needed to use Oculus? Why people hate this fact"

For any newbies coming to this thread, I'd just like to point out that it's not a fact that you need a Facebook account to use Oculus.


Agreed, I don't have a Facebook account, never had one, don't plan to get one  🙂 I already spend way too much time in here and on Reddit.

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Zenbane
Level 15

Ray_Sover said:

"What's the big deal with Facebook account needed to use Oculus? Why people hate this fact"

For any newbies coming to this thread, I'd just like to point out that it's not a fact that you need a Facebook account to use Oculus.



This topic arose because Facebook will require that users have a linked Facebook Account if they want to experience Horizon.

“You still will use your Oculus ID,” Fitzgerald told me. “Your name in Horizon is your Oculus identity, but we do require a linked Facebook account and that lets us do some great things around both safety — making sure it’s backed by a real person — but also for the people who want to invite more of their social network from their Facebook world into their VR environment. [With Facebook integration] they have better tools to do that — they can share out to groups and communities. But it is a Facebook product and we want to take advantage of the social features that Facebook has built as we’re thinking this through.”


https://venturebeat.com/2019/12/01/facebooks-beat-games-acquisition-is-a-stepping-stone-toward-horiz...

I have 2 Facebook accounts now. One for personal use, and one for VR. No big deal in my case. I look forward to trying out Horizon.

kobs57
Level 7
When I bought my Rift CV1, that was all you could get then, you could log without a FB account or with it didn't matter. We all had fun everyone was seeing everyone inviting peoples over in Oculus homes peoples you didn't even knew came to visit and all was well. then they arranged updates so peoples with FB accounts couldn't see the "others" it started a whole mess of confusion and went on for weeks, you couldn't see your friends, I had to communicate with some of mine via e-mail to see what was going on etc. then they simply cut off "the others" from the whole community, you (I) couldn't see anyone no one could visit my homes, I was alone. In other words I was  forced to use a FB account if I wanted to interact with my friends. Why do peoples hate? It's always by force, no one is asking, "it's ours and this is the way it works" you (peoples who paid to use it and liked it) are just sheep in the field. Most peoples like to be considered and asked. Same with FB itself, at one point they deleted accounts and pages which had contents that didn't fit with FB's way of thinking. I think that's "Why people hate this fact" or have grudges against FB, they have no consideration for peoples opinions, As someone said "it's private, they let you in if you don't like the way it works get off the bus" an autocracy that's what FB is
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