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Will oculus try to beat PSVR to market

Zandil
Rising Star

So is there any benefit to oculus beating Sony to the market with Touch, if only by a few days. wonder if there are many people on the fence waiting to see all 3 company's out with HMD and hand controllers before they open their purse ?

Will we see a pre order date at OC3 or do you think they have been building up Stock ready for a full release during OC3 ?

Unlike Rift Pre-orders Oculus have a good indication of how many orders to expect and could be ready for them to go live.

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Zenbane
MVP
MVP
The only problem I see with that @shadowfrogger is that the power of technology in the military sector has maintained its lead over the public sector. This has been true since the invention of computer technology, and it is still true today. I think people forget that all industry is regulated. At no point will any of us live to see the day that a piece of technology is allowed to make it to the hands of the general public that is more powerful or advanced than our military equivalent.

The public sector is increasing things for different reasons (e.g., video games); whereas the military increases for other priorities (i.e., cyber warfare). But even in the example I gave about the 1950's... the military was using a computer for a "simulation" exercise; which is exactly what a lot of video games do anyway.

Without getting too wordy, here is a good read:

I feel that a smaller gap now
exists. I now see top Military tech only 12-18 months ahead of
commercial in some areas -where it used to be measured in 2-4 years...


https://www.quora.com/How-far-advanced-is-military-technology-in-relation-to-available-consumer-tech

The gap between the military and the public sector is shrinking, but it remains ahead. Now with Artificial Intelligence taking advantage of GPU's, their advancement in the military sector will easily exceed anything the general public is doing for video games.

shadowfrogger
Heroic Explorer
Are the military creating and designing microprocessors themselves or do they based it on current available technology. The military are still somewhat been driven by the rest of the world, but just with increased funds.

With Artifical Intelligence, it's going to be about the non military research that drives it, power is certainly needed but software is a higher priority. IBM's true north neuromorpic chip is probably better in that area. I highly doubt the military has a better chip. Once researchers get something going, then the military will hop in, create uber versions and start thier own research.
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Zenbane
MVP
MVP
hmm, well I guess since the government is really just regular citizens signing up for a specific type of job and label... it's kind 'o all the same anyway lol

Although I'm not sure why you think A.I. is gonna be about non-military driven advancements. To two biggest mainstream uses of A.I. were a complete flop:

1) Microsoft's Tay who turned in to a public racist:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-...

2) Facebook's A.I. creates a fake news story 2 days post-release
http://qz.com/769002/after-replacing-human-editors-with-an-algorithm-facebook-ended-up-with-a-fake-t...


In contrast, A.I. is being successfully used to take cyber warfare to an impressive new level:
http://thehackernews.com/2016/04/artificial-intelligence-cyber-security.html
http://raconteur.net/technology/ai-could-rescue-failing-cyber-security-sector


I agree that there is a synergy between all sectors. However, the military - and I'm talking all world power governments - always maintain an edge over consumer products. The innovations stemming from the entertainment industry are certainly very real and measurable; however, I put more emphasis on government/military when it comes to attributing a real catalyst for shaping the world.

shadowfrogger
Heroic Explorer
I guess I was just pointing out the fact that normal industry does impact direction/speed instead of just military leading the way. I agree that military will and does keep a edge on most things.

AI will have huge impacts on non military areas, deep learning/cognitive computing is going to be useful for self driving cars, pattern recognition, the upcoming robot manufacturing revolution,AI jobs in accounting/law. Medical diagnosis. This area of virtually emulating neurons rather then code could very well create self aware AI. The benefits of that for could be staggering. AI that could do research by itself that has quick access to the world's knowledge at a speed that no human team could keep up. Granted self aware AI is 20 - 60 years away, research has to be started since this type of code is radically new. Snapdragon 820 already have a section of the chip dedicated to processing this type of code. Which will be used in written language translation, malware detection etc. I'll post some links

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/weve-put-worms-mind-lego-robot-body-180953399/

https://arc.applause.com/2016/05/10/qualcomm-machine-learning-zeroth-intelligence-engine/h

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html

That last one is a good read but I personally don't believe with everything in it.
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Anonymous
Not applicable
Unfortunately what VR lacks right now is AAA content. I'm hoping PSVR and Sony can make that situation a bit better. The sickness situation is something that's ultimately up to the game designers and their choice of implementing locomotion.

Unfortunately no matter how much some users here would try to drum up reprehension towards PSVR (in the hopes that it would somehow make PCVR better), it has a number of exclusive titles that excite me apart from the mobile game types that are available across the board. It will also be more user friendly, no matter which way you look at it.

If PSVR fails, I think PCVR will have to come up with all the investment necessary to continue the VR game development industry as it does now. If it is successful, then we maybe looking at a vibrant 3rd party VR game development industry, strong E3 presence and marketing money that will go a long way towards making our dreams come true, faster.