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Devs afraid of creating a "murder simulator"?

MowTin
Expert Trustee
Have you noticed that a lot of games in VR involve shooting robots or zombies? 

It seems they're afraid of backlash if killing people is too realistic. But it's still a game. We want the full "murder simulator." We're big boys. We can handle it. 

Here is what the devs said regarding Bullet Train / Robo Recall:

http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/6/13185892/robo-recall-epic-games-oculus-rift-touch

The other struggle was balancing the fact that the game included a lot of violence that shouldn’t feel wrong to the player. They struggled with that during production.

"It was hard to make sure the game was fun but not a murder simulation," Jerome Platteaux, the game’s art director told Polygon. "So we made sure it’s colorful, it’s fun, it’s arcadey so people feel good coming back and not feeling like killing people again and again. That was one of the big pillars we had."

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elboffor
Consultant
Vorpx, gta v, driving down the sidewalk.
Funny as hell!
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Ruined
Heroic Explorer
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leo1954au
Adventurer
Personally I would like to see a really good building sim like SimCity , Railroad Tycoon or even a good adventure game like what I'm playing now when I'm not on my rift Tex Murphy Telsa Affect 

n3cr0-0
Adventurer
I am loving the shooting games (dead and buried, arizona sunshine) and there is a myriad of games that I would like to see for instance FIGHT NIGHT! < no im not really into the sports games but fight night would be slick.

I cant wait to see what this next year pumps out in the shooters because this is still really fresh and the devs seem to be getting it right. that is all for my two cents

HoIIywood
Heroic Explorer

Mr.Creepy said:

I enjoy violence in VR as much as normal games. When I play games like the GTA 4 (not talking VR here) I will litteraly play like a lunatic, brutally assaulting people for the slightest of insults. I'll even smack women right in the face in some cases. I'll even attack innocent people for no reason at all. ...


I laughed when I read that, as if you're clarifying something really important here by specifying that.


elboffor said:

Vorpx, gta v, driving down the sidewalk.
Funny as hell!


It's like Carmageddon in VR

Mr_Creepy
Rising Star

HoIIywood said:


Mr.Creepy said:

I enjoy violence in VR as much as normal games. When I play games like the GTA 4 (not talking VR here) I will litteraly play like a lunatic, brutally assaulting people for the slightest of insults. I'll even smack women right in the face in some cases. I'll even attack innocent people for no reason at all. ...


I laughed when I read that, as if you're clarifying something really important here by specifying that.



It was important :lol: Just saying I'll do absurd things  in games.

On the topic I also don't think anyone is avoiding it, games were you shoot "real" people will come.

MowTin
Expert Trustee

Mr.Creepy said:

I enjoy violence in VR as much as normal games. When I play games like the GTA 4 (not talking VR here) I will litteraly play like a lunatic, brutally assaulting people for the slightest of insults. I'll even smack women right in the face in some cases. I'll even attack innocent people for no reason at all. I would never do that in real life though, but that's another topic. I would however have no qualms doing it in VR. My point is that while I'm really a sympethetic guy in real life, I still have no problem with horrible actions if they are fictional. So I personally agree, don't hold back on violent content or realism for the sake of being politically correct, or what ever to call it.


I agree. Even if they got bad publicity over the violence it would only help sales. By avoiding the violence we are already used to and expecting they are holding VR back.

Also, porn. VR porn can also help sales if people know about it. 
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MoeCapp
Protege
Devs are so lily-livered that they can't even put proper locomotion options in their games out of fear that some granny might get the wobbles. Eventually somebody's just going to go for it and make a million bucks letting us beat something to death in a horrific explosion of gore that isn't robots or zombies.

Marrukkah
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n3cr0-0 said:


Marrukkah said:

You know,a murder simulator is one thing, but I've always wondered how come we've never seen a serial killing simulation. I wonder how a studio would tackle that.



You mean like Manhunt???



Yes, something like that. Of course you could just have an entire little world/towns/etc to explore and murder to your hearts content

Iblysi
Heroic Explorer
Just keep knocking on the virtual door of Running with Scissors for a Postal VR game :smile: