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RuneSR2
Honored Contributor
July 28, 2018
Question

The destructive force of GREAT VR games getting mediocre or no reviews

When telling my friends and colleagues that VR is mankind's most impressive invention since the wheel, I keep hearing that many will consider buying a VR headset when great games arrive. I can then tell them about the many awesome VR games, but the problem arises when I have to show some reviews of such great VR games. Often there're no reviews or the authors of VR game reviews seem keen to do their very best bashing most VR games for not being good enough - quite contrary to my experiences.

I know Oculus took great pride getting a top-ranked VR game on Metacritic, and they succeeded with Lone Echo last year. But where do we stand this summer? - Here's today's list of the best PC games, including VR games, from Metacritic (and my friends read such lists):



According to that list there are no games you can't play without a VR headset. The only game on the list you can play in VR is The Forest, but it works in 2D too. If the list is expanded to show all current games, Gunheart also receives 83 points like The Forest, and again you don't need a VR headset to play Gunheart. My friends easily conclude that since there're no VR-only high-ranking games on the Metacritic list, it's because current VR games are of poor quality and VR is something no one truly needs. 

I can't blame them for drawing such conclusions, and even showing 2D trailers don't help much, because you can't communicate the greatness of VR games using a 2D video.

I think it's a great problem that new and awesome VR games don't get good reviews or do not get reviewed at all. Let's take Moss - it's a VR-only game arriving a few months ago:

Moss Metacritic Score for PC: No score due to insufficient number of reviews.
Moss User Score in the Oculus Store: About 96% average. 

There're just 3 Moss reviews for PC VR on Metacritic, scoring the game at 79, 80 or 90 % - which in no way reflects user experiences. And often I see a similar trend. 

The reason behind the few Moss PC reviews are probably that many reviewers reviewed the PS4 version and then didn't want to do another review for PC VR. Thus compared to the 3 reviews for the Rift/Vive version, there're 62 reviews of the PS4 version! Interestingly many reviewers have no problem reviewing different game versions for PS4, XBox One and PC - like Battlefield 1, Fifa 18 and Rise of the Tomb Rader just to name a few titles. Why didn't Moss PC VR get a similar treatment?

This is a great problem - Moss for the Rift and Vive is not the same as the PS4 version; PS4 has no controllers matching the Rift or Vive, and the PS4 has much lower resolution (also when using high levels of super-sampling on the Rift and Vive). But the greatness of Moss PC VR was never communicated to the masses, because there're almost no published reviews of one of the greatest VR games so far - and certainly the best one thus far in 2018!

Another problem of mixing VR and 2D games on Metacritic is to compare apples and oranges, or probably more to compare grapes and watermelons 😉

To illustrate: Is Subnautica 2D the same as Subnautica VR? Is Elite Dangerous 2D the same as Elite Dangerous VR? I'd personally consider Subnautica VR about 10 times better than Subnautica 2D, even if the VR version does have some problems. So should we rate Subnautica 2D at 10 % and the VR version at 100 % ? Of course this would not be fair, but I'd have no problem rating Subnautica 2D at 65 % and the VR version at 95 %, if we really want to compare apples and oranges - and want to rate both on the same scale. 
I believe that many reviewers rate VR games just as if the games were in 2D. Comparing 2D and VR games, I'd have a hard time rating a 2D game more than 70 % - and that would be for the very best AAA 2D games, while I'd have a hard time rating any high-quality VR game below 90 %. This is due to the fact that VR games are so incredibly more visually impressive and immersive than any 2D game can be - and Touch controllers add a lot to provide a truly unique VR experience. For example I'd have no problem rating a 2D version of Marvel Powers United at maybe 60 %, and to rate the VR version at 90 %, because the immersion - the feeling of being present in the game world - is so much better in VR. 

If reviewers fail to clearly communicate how much better VR games are compared to 2D games, how are persons - who know very little about VR - going to know how much better VR games are compared to 2D games? The current bashing of Marvel Powers United is a great example of this - and it's a great destructive force limiting VR adoption when VR game reviewers constantly criticize gameplay as if a VR game wasn't different from a 2D game. A new VR game which is the best within it's genre - compared to other VR games in the same genre - is per definition the new reference and should carry a rating reflecting that position. - And such a VR game should not carry a rating that reflects a reviewers preference for 2D games in the genre. 

I think it would be great if Oculus representatives could ask Metacritic not to mix 2D and VR games; there are plenty of VR games to support having their own category.
We need to stop comparing apples and oranges. 

Finally we could take a look on the current top three PC games on Metacritic, namely these:

Into the Breach - rated 89 %


Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - rated 88 %


Final Fantasy XV - Windows - rated at 85 %


I do think that some of these games look impressive, but are these games way better than the latest and greatest Rift games? Personally I'd consider the following games so much better; compared to 2D games I'd happily rate Moss at 97 %, Seeking Dawn at 93 % and Marvel Powers United VR at 90 %



    132 replies

    RuneSR2
    RuneSR2Author
    Honored Contributor
    August 25, 2018
    Finally Metacritic found a 4th review of Hellblade VR and the game now has a Metascore of 88. At least we now have a VR game in the top 3 of best current PC games! (Like Lone Echo exactly one year ago)



    Metacritic found a lackluster Italian review as the 4th review awarding the game only 80 %. I sent Metacritic three reviews in German and Spanish all rating Hellblade VR 90+ %. I don't know why Metacritic didn't include these reviews :(  I've just sent that mail to Metacritic again  o:)

    Still great to have a VR game back in top 3!
    Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
    RuneSR2
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    Honored Contributor
    September 25, 2018
    History keeps repeating itself :( - Now Windlands 2 has arrived, it's game of the year quality - and then the game gets some serious spanking by a reviewer on a website which actually is dedicated to VR gaming  :s And again Windlands 2 gets almost no reviews and thus no Metascore - my pancake gaming friends will probably never know that Windlands 2 exists. Not even the RoadToVR Windlands 2 review is on Metacritic - I've stopped writing to Metacritic, I get no response - but I've added the first and only user review  o:)


    Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
    Zenbane
    Honored Contributor
    September 25, 2018

    How many people do you or the OP know that has said to you "I was going to buy a VR headset but I read some game reviews and thought I am now not going to buy a headset"?   I predict zero people have said that to either you or the OP. 

    It's ridiculus to say poor VR headset sales are down to poor game reviews. 



    No it's ridiculous for you to make a sweeping assumption based on zero facts. People are constantly complaining about the lack of "Killer App" or "AAA Titles" as the reason that they are passing on this first Gen of VR HMD's. They may not be saying it directly to me or the OP, but they are saying it openly and publicly for anyone to read. You just have to look.

    It's ridiculous to deny what's really been said for the last 2.5 years of mainstream VR.
    Zenbane
    Honored Contributor
    September 25, 2018

    nrosko said:
    I would agree that a vr version is going to be better most of the time I still think you put way too much credit on vr it self & not the actual game as a whole in the same way some people credit a game for its gfx when the game as a whole might be sub par.



    That's a bad comparison: no matter how good 2D graphics become, it is not the same thing as being fully immersed in that world. RuneSR2 is spot on when he says that "immersion" does not play a role in many people's reviews. They act as if we've all been this immersed for decades and only now have the VR Titles become stale. It's hilarious; especially considering that most gamers are Console and Mobile App junkies.
    RuneSR2
    RuneSR2Author
    Honored Contributor
    January 16, 2019
    And another totally awesome VR game is getting the silent treatment - no reviews, few may know it exists, sadly :(  The game even offers pancake support:


    At least there's one VR game in the current Metacritic PC Games top 10 - maybe I should buy that game just to support the devs, although I'm normally not that fond of puzzle games (I do love Obduction though):


    https://youtu.be/reQPwK774O0

    https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1365103133543739/
    Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
    Participant
    January 17, 2019
    I don't really understand the lack of critic reviews, especially given the small number of VR new releases compared to 2D for a given time period.

    Some of the mediocre ones might be due to the reviewer not taking into account that most dev's are probably still figuring out what works and what doesn't in VR, which would eat into development time that would be spent on adding content or bug fixing in a 2D game.
    The last two lines of the 'Windlands 2' review by UploadVR a few posts above is a good example... Great foundation, falls short on execution.
    It probably will be "so much more" if they make a 'Windlands 3', now that they've clearly nailed the interface.
    They also describe it as "a delight to play" and certain aspects of it as "an unrivaled joy in VR", yet they only rate it 70?

    Maybe part of the problem is that PCVR doesn't have the numbers yet and it's not financially worthwhile for general gaming sites to devote time and resources to VR reviews? Not getting enough views per page or something?

    Although that won't last long...I
    have little doubt that some of the next crop of AAA games will have VR-support built-in, which will result in a decent increase in HMD ownership.
    If Rockstar come out and say 'Grand Theft Auto 6' will be playable in VR, they'll be selling HMD's faster than they can make them. :)

    RuneSR2
    RuneSR2Author
    Honored Contributor
    January 18, 2019

    RuneSR2 said:

    And another totally awesome VR game is getting the silent treatment - no reviews, few may know it exists, sadly :(  The game even offers pancake support:


    At least there's one VR game in the current Metacritic PC Games top 10 - maybe I should buy that game just to support the devs, although I'm normally not that fond of puzzle games (I do love Obduction though):


    https://youtu.be/reQPwK774O0

    https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1365103133543739/



    The world is filled with difficult choices, just got this  :)

    Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
    RuneSR2
    RuneSR2Author
    Honored Contributor
    January 18, 2019
    Sigh, I couldn't help it - I pictured the devs at home with their hungry children and no money for food - I had to do something, and it's been day(s) since I bought a VR game  o:)


    Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
    Up and Coming
    January 18, 2019
    It's a good game, has a nice vibe to it, quite a unique puzzle element. 
    RuneSR2
    RuneSR2Author
    Honored Contributor
    February 1, 2019
    This game is currently the number 1 PC game on Metacritic - it has a Metascore of 92, not even Lone Echo got that high. Thus this game is significantly better than any existing VR game according to reviews and Metascores  :'(

    https://youtu.be/jp_XgQjgGNY

    I'm pretty sure I'd find it hard to give that pancake game a higher rating than 2 % - maybe 3 % if it's a sunny day - compared to the best VR games. I guess there's so much truth to be found in this drawing: 


    Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"