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May 15, 2017
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Arguing on the internet

Scott Adams (the guy who writes and draws Dilbert) has a blog.  
In that blog he has written all sorts of things that are controversial.  Hell, he predicted Trump's election months and months (a year?) before it happened.  He's also a  published writer and trained hypnotist, among other things.  

His latest post was pretty interesting because it echoes one of my long-held axioms of forum arguments - ad hominem is the last resort of someone who is fresh out of logical responses.  Here it is for those of you who might enjoy reading it.

Scott Adams lists three other ways to tell you've "won" a political argument, but I think these apply equally to the discussions we have here on the board.  I know I've been guilty of a few of these over the years, so I'm going to try to avoid them if possible.
I guess this is fair warning that I'm going to judge others based on a few of his criteria as well.  If you commit any of these four internet argument sins, I'm going to smile and move on to another subject.

I know this may fall on deaf ears so I've prepared a quote from Arnold in his breakout role: 
"And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!"

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    Participant
    May 30, 2017
    Did i go to the right place
    Participant
    May 30, 2017
    I need it to be for gear vr
    Inspiring
    May 30, 2017




    Your too stupid in real life to notice.... I told you, I know who you are and what youre about... lata loser... and those 3 clowns who loled your comment...


    This among other things you said. This is insulting and a personal attack. Also, it's "you're". If you're going to call someone else "stupid" at least use proper spelling, lol.


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    May 30, 2017

    Unilady said:

    Did i go to the right place


    You want here =https://forums.oculus.com/community/categories/samsung-gear-vr 
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    Up and Coming
    June 1, 2017
    @cybereality When people refer to the way you spell something they usually have no argument. And youre right, that was an attack. I was insulted more than once on this forum, and didnt take it serious. And Ive written enough on here for people to know that I know the difference between your and you are, and there, their, and they are, I also know which witch is witch. He said something about my upbringing, was that not a personal attack? Its all about perspective I guess. And like I said, I didnt feel disrespected by anything anyone said on here. I took it as jokes and what i said was meant to be delivered as such, I honestly didnt think that someone who would call me Borat would be so sensitive. I also noticed a few posts on here from a while ago that made me realize that most of you have been on here for a while and developed some sort of relationship to where as I came in off the sidewalk dissing your boy. Or at least that couldve been the perspective that some couldve taken, and I get it. I also saw a comment that @Zenbane made a while back and it made me realize something else. I was going to clash with the person who said "I would never put a number in my name it would be like admitting that someone else came before me" It might not be a perfect quote but, thats hands down how I feel. Even if there was before me, Im here now and thats all that matters. I fucks with that zenbeezy, I fucks with that philosophy. 
    with that being said, if you feel like we were having some type of internet feud, you can say that you won. And Id be okay with that. Knowledge is power, sometimes that power can consume you to the point where youre just out there looking for a worthy opponent. Until you realize that in doing so you became the villian.
    @nalex66 and I hope you didnt take that clown shit to the heart, I saw your work that you did in medium and I think youre brilliant, and a dope artist. You have my utmost respect.

    In retrospect, im going through one of the biggest creative slumps in my life. So maybe I do need to say the things ive done, remind myself that im still a genius and no one can take my talent. That I can pick up any instrument and rock out, that Im qualified to use over 6 figures in software. And no one can take that from me. Someone just got killed in front of my building last night, and I live in one of the nice hoods now a days, and the only thing I could think about, was the csi was taking to long to move so I could go to the store to get my cigars. No one is going to say anything online that I dont know in real life thats going to make me feel any type of way. Ive seen real shit in my life, every place I type, is an avenue for me to let off and make some fun out of a serious situation. Laughing is priceless, ask Roger Rabbit. With that being said, sorry again for the long novel. And I cant promise im not going to come on here and say something off the wall, and can promise to make sure that I dont say something that might be considered crossing the line I guess. Think of my font, with the same tone you would George Carlins comedy, not young GC older white hair pony tail GC.. Ill be shooting it out in dead and buried after im done chilling with danknugs, and uhhmm if anyone wants a shot at a top 29 target shooter ill be around.. Would you like to come shoot me? ahh who cares im out.

    ps, yea I know the diff between to, too, two.. I ate tooooo much candy.  duhhh. By anychance, anyone member that game Algernon? lol aight now im out..
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    Zenbane
    Honored Contributor
    June 1, 2017


    He said something about my upbringing, was that not a personal attack? Its all about perspective I guess.


    It's not about perspective, it is about understanding the order of events. Before I said anything about your upbringing you launched this embarrassing wall of text:

    @Zenbane
    not for nothing you are truly on my jock.. I wasnt trying to win an
    argument, I was having beers and using you for entertainment, Your too
    stupid in real life to notice. I post a shirtless pic in all honesty,
    because I can. I made a statement about not having to lie about anything
    in life, cause I get money, women, and I take care of my business. I
    just wanted to make sure you knew who you was talking too because I dont
    have to hide behind a computer like some fat insecure virgin. That was a
    pic I took in the basement of a building after working out, its a pic
    that was once my FB main pic, its a pic thats been online before you
    knew what oculus was. Again, Im not responding to you, unless I feel
    like using you for entertainment, I told you, I piss further than you.,
    And it tells me a lot about you, when the topic is of something else.
    and all you can remember is my shirtless pic. Get my shirtless pic out
    your head lmaooo. I dont argue with people I cant see, for all I know
    you could be some old bag in a wheel chair who lives behind the monitor.
    And I know youll respond to this, because you cant help yourself. I
    told you, I know who you are and what youre about... lata loser. If ever
    you wanna compete with work or art then talk to me.. And that goes for
    anyone who thinks they can challenge me creatively.. and those 3 clowns
    who loled your comment, I know everything about them too, those are
    called followers lmao.
    https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/comment/521112/#Comment_521112


    If you wanna whine about how you are treated them maybe take a break from typing 10,000 words a minute and look at everything you've contributed to this forum. Cause it is pretty terrible.


    Up and Coming
    June 1, 2017
    @PixlmechStudios

    If you had just LOLed Zenbane's original post

    https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/comment/520744/#Comment_520744

    it would have all been fine. I think he was throwing you a bone.

    Zenbane did a personal attack on elboffor that was one of the lowest blows I had seen in the forum (I won't repeat it) and elboffor responded with this awesome thread
    https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/51875/zenbane-palmer-luckey

    You and Zenbane can be friends.  Zenbane has his negative sides (the biggest one is always having to have the last word) but he contributes far more positive aspects than negative to this forum.

    I'm one of the clowns but I don't take offense. Actually, I used to juggle with some clowns in college and if I did not have responsibilities I would love to quit my job behind a computer all day and go back to juggling. If you recall I was one of the few people that was not offended by your thread
    https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/51050/if-you-get-motion-sickness-dont-do-vr/p1

    Concentrate on your creative side

    https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/50698/new-to-oculus-not-the-new-to-the-genre-looking-for-gaming-friends-3d-animator-here

    and avoid getting in trolling wars with Zenbane (or others).
    nalex66
    Honored Contributor
    June 1, 2017
    Now I'm curious about @Zenbane's low blow against @elboffor. I read just about everything on this forum, and I don't remember anything particularly terrible.  :/
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    June 1, 2017
    Me too, I like both guys and wouldn't like to see animosity between them.
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    Inspiring
    June 1, 2017
    Speaking of arguing on the internet @cybereality has Oculus considered doing an official Discord Server? or maybe we could start an unofficial one? Then @Zenbane can have his own channel in there .. it will be called "HTC Fanboy lashing and torture room" ..... but seriously I would love for that to be a thing.
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