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DaftnDirect
Honored Contributor
December 24, 2018

A decision like that could lead to a very sluggish adoption of ray tracing by games devs.

From what I'm hearing, people who haven't experienced a ray-trace game are way more likely to go for plain and simple FPS gains over their current card as a justifier for upgrading. Which is understandable I guess.

That in turn would mean RTX remains a small market for nvidia which would make it difficult to bring the prices down for those cards, unless they start to subsidise the early RTX cards from the sales of non-RTX cards.

I see RTX being niche for a couple more generations of cards if they do this, and for those that have bought into RTX, it would probably mean a lot fewer enabled games than hoped for.

I really like the tech and what it can do for games but as for putting my money where my mouth is and getting a 2080ti... well I'm having trouble justifying it.

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PhoenixSpyderAuthor
Up and Coming
December 24, 2018

DaftnDirect said:


I really like the tech and what it can do for games but as for putting my money where my mouth is and getting a 2080ti... well I'm having trouble justifying it.




I totally agree with you, hard to justify the price presently when games supporting the tech are too far away. I foresee myself still using my 1080ti till 7nm 2nd gen cards are available. At that time 2nd gen cards should be at least 50-75%+ faster than 1080ti at rasterization.

Btw, sick Windows 95 system you got there.... :p
DaftnDirect
Honored Contributor
December 24, 2018
You never forget your first..... PC ?
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RuneSR2
RuneSR2
Honored Contributor
December 27, 2018
Seems like RTX 2060 is coming - but then it's hard to understand why Nvidia would continue GTX... Well, unless the RTX specific parts of the GPU can be disabled in case of errors, and the card sold as a normal GTX... Hmmm.... 

https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-6gb-4gb-and-3gb-models-confirmed-in-eec-filing

Guess we'll know sometime next year  B)
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JohnnyDioxin
Inspiring
December 27, 2018
It's like when DX10 cards were flooding the market and hardly any games at all supported it. Why buy it if you can't use it?
That's why I stuck with my X1950XTX while people were falling over themselves to buy the 8800's. Mind you - that X1950XTX was the last red card I bought until the 4870.

For me, green was the only way to go, up until I was browsing PC World one day and spotted a red card on the shelf - don't remember which one, but it had two BIOS on board and you had to switch them with a shorting thingy (can't remember what they are called now) - of course, I had it on "Turbo" BIOS all the time, plus overclocking it was brilliant and cost a fraction of the then popular GeForce cards. Had an X800XT Multi Media version after that - another good card, especially for video editing. Think that was around £200. Then £300 for the then top of the range X1950XTX, which performed extremely well (overclocked and with a custom cooler fitted) and lasted me over 3 years, before I went back to green (GF6600 I think), very briefly, until that awesome HD4870 came out and made me smile - a lot!

PS - I'd be interested in a GTX11xx card, as long as it gave an increase in performance and wasn't overly expensive.
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DaftnDirect
Honored Contributor
December 27, 2018

Brixmis said:

you had to switch them with a shorting thingy (can't remember what they are called now)


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JohnnyDioxin
Inspiring
December 27, 2018
Yeah, that's it! For an electrician, forgetting that is pretty baaad! :(
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Anonymous
December 27, 2018
I loved the 4870, when I got mine I got the 2GB version which meant I didn't have to upgrade it for YEARS. There weren't that many of those about but it was worth its weight in gold, I think Powercolor were the only company that made them, at least I can't remember seeing any other manufacturers doing them.

Probably my favourite GPU I've owned so far I think.
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