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Honored Contributor
June 10, 2019
Question

The Index thread (please keep to subject)

As per the title, please respect the users who post here and keep it on topic, any nonsense and......grrr

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Shadowmask72
Honored Contributor
July 25, 2019
I can confirm PCARS 2 is quite comparable to the Reverb in terms of visuals. Again 120Hz wins again though in terms of overall smoothness. Close-up details are lovely, can read all of the text without squinting. 

What are these lines you speak of, any specific place to spot them?
System Specs: MSI NVIDIA RTX 4090 , i5 13700K CPU, 32GB DDR 4 RAM, Win 11 64 Bit OS.
RuneSR2
Honored Contributor
July 25, 2019


Just played some skyrim and it's very hard to say how much clearer the Reverb is to be honest which can only mean they are closer than one imagines. Up-close detail is superb on the  index to the point where it's much better than the Pimax 8K and CV1 and of course better than Quest streaming by quite a large margin. The FOV is quite nice as well. I can see now why some people the Index grew on them over time. I'll try PCARS 2 and if the distance details look good then I would start to believe the index is a good alternative to Reverb.  Again, in Skyrim the smooth locomotion is pretty awesome. You notice right away. Obviously I am a 2080Ti i9 9900K user here which helps a lot. It genuinely feels like Xmas morning here right now around 35 years ago (quite a bit warmer though). Oh and yes I notice the headset getting warm/hot.

@RedRizla tough call as the more I play with the Index the less-likely.


Thanks for the intensive testing, missus must be out or very understanding ;) Seems like we're on the same page with the Index, thus it's not perfect, but probably the best VR solution at the moment. 

Now we just need HLVR, lol.

Ps. Leopard print is extremely interesting, can you zoom out a bit?
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
RuneSR2
Honored Contributor
July 25, 2019


I can confirm PCARS 2 is quite comparable to the Reverb in terms of visuals. Again 120Hz wins again though in terms of overall smoothness. Close-up details are lovely, can read all of the text without squinting. 

What are these lines you speak of, any specific place to spot them?


To me it looked like some sort of interlacing effect, like an old crt tv, only noticed it once or twice when walking on the tiles in SteamVR Home (90 hz), maybe checking the sky in the default home. Compared to the massive SDE in CV1 it was nothing.
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD "Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
July 25, 2019
I would also like to state, Ive had zero luck with 144hz.. Basically when I switch to that setting, the overall visuals get blurry, and what I mean by that is, menus and the overall visuals blur up some.  When I switch back to 120hz, it all becomes clear.
Up and Coming
July 25, 2019


This is what the issue looks like for me. It's more pronounced in one eye than the other. In the other eye it's so faint you can barely notice it. 

One user had a friend who said he didn't have the issue but when he went to test his friend's index, he saw it. Some people don't notice it. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/c8ehs1/problem_with_index_vertical_lines/

Another picture from the thread...


i7 9700k 3090 rtx   CV1, Rift-S, Index, G2
July 25, 2019
Bloody hell, that looks AWFUL :o
Up and Coming
July 25, 2019
Wow...I never saw anything like that and I analyzed every millimeter of my screen while playing. It must have been too subtle for me to see if it was there. It says turning the head makes it visible in that thread, how so? If you look left or right you can see it while the head is in motion? 
Shadowmask72
Honored Contributor
July 25, 2019
Don't see that on mine at all looks like a defective unit imo.
System Specs: MSI NVIDIA RTX 4090 , i5 13700K CPU, 32GB DDR 4 RAM, Win 11 64 Bit OS.
Up and Coming
July 25, 2019


Don't see that on mine at all looks like a defective unit imo.


Yea that's what I'm thinking. This thing sure seems to have a lot of defective units. 
Shadowmask72
Honored Contributor
July 25, 2019
Defective units are expected for most electronic goods and what happens is you get to see all of the people with them online. What you don't see is many people posting they don't have a defective unit, so it seems like a lot but perhaps isn't in the grand scheme. 
System Specs: MSI NVIDIA RTX 4090 , i5 13700K CPU, 32GB DDR 4 RAM, Win 11 64 Bit OS.