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kevinw729
kevinw729
Inspiring
August 24, 2017
Question

The Scope of VR Arcade

elboffor said:
kevinw729 said:
Need to be careful how you define Niche.

The big problem is many of you use the term "arcade" as if it was still a thing. The arcade industry back in the 80-90 represented "street route" business (operators running a number of amusement pieces in a mall unit). But today the amusement industry represents "Family Entertainment Centers" and Entertainment facilities, combining large numbers of mixed-use entertainment systems.

Arcades are not a thing, its the amusement industry and as cane be seen by the profits being made by Dave & Busters, Chuck E. Cheese and Main Event these are multi-million Dollar corporations seeing great expansion. 

Just as an example of how VR plays into the amusement scene lets just look at the brand new The VOID installation in the new FEC opened in Canada. The Rec Room kind of places in perspective the danger of sweeping assumptions when thinking that the amusement model with technology attractions is "niche"!



'VR Arcade' is just the beginning of the story - wait till you see the new 'Location-Based Entertainment' centers coming to the West!
Looks like a normal arcade to me...
indeed.. .the thing i dont get (and sorry @kevinw729 if you have already explained yourself) I dont understand why he seems to think the term arcade is a slur?

I bloody love arcades, and it kills me that the seaside arcades i grew up with in the 80s and 90s are now rotting filled with gamblers and a few screen burned machines with ropy joysticks and stuck firebuttons.

they can rebrand em however they want, if places like the image above make a comeback, i am all over it (tho please include a "retro corner".  

I am biased tho. I spent £1500 building a twin stick 2 banks of 6 buttons , with trackball arcade for my man cave... and would never be without it.

I AM convinced there is a market for such a thing to make a comback, in big cities at least.... esp now with LED screens the power use should be a lot less and hopefully they have a longer life before failure... mixing in the classic stuff with the cutting edge... - which is how it always was even back in the day, with your sega R360 and the like on show at the front with the older stuff buried in the back.

edit;... oh and back on topic

the vive strap thing is not only a vive issue.. :( the foam around the nose piece of my rift has started to come away and break up :(
Okay - have moved the discussion here - what are the elements you need clarity on regarding this offering?

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Anonymous
August 25, 2017
Interesting

On a side note,

Is this a cleverusername?? 
elboffor
Inspiring
August 25, 2017
Its a very cleverusername, its almost as clever as when martinlandau came back as AtariVR clearly
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KeldorVR
Participant
August 25, 2017

vannagirl said:

Interesting

On a side note,

Is this a cleverusername?? 



Keldor was skeletor before the ACID burned his face off, kinda like Kevin used to call the Gear VR solution the FACEMELTER it got so hot and was exploding.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxJVZPYEpk0

This company is burning it's own house down with unforced errors.

elboffor
Inspiring
August 25, 2017
Unforced?
Is that a word?

Also, is this true kevin?
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OpticKing
Inspiring
August 26, 2017

KeldorVR said: -snip-



I counter you with a better version!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtcL96CDJf8

kevinw729
kevinw729Author
Inspiring
August 26, 2017

elboffor said:

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Try to keep up kevin


Would love to keep up if you were not dancing all around the place - come on guy, what is to hide name the publicly trading VR arcade you want to use to prove your point? Or do you want me to reveal is  B)
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
elboffor
Inspiring
August 26, 2017
He openly advertises as do a lot of the vr arcades in england. But I'm not going to highlight his company on the official oculus forums.

As for the different threads, i generally stay in that threads topic (or whatever it has evolved to)
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kevinw729
kevinw729Author
Inspiring
August 26, 2017

elboffor said:

He openly advertises as do a lot of the vr arcades in england. But I'm not going to highlight his company on the official oculus forums.



Oh, so it sounds like you do know that he is doing something wrong, so you claim that he is doing something that everyone is doing but dont want to name him, fare enough - your call.

The question has to be is he paying license fees for the games he runs, or is he also skirting the law on that?
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
elboffor
Inspiring
August 26, 2017
I don't know the ins and outs kevin, I'm his friend not his financial advisor or accountant.

And wrong or not, I'm not going to potentially cause an issue for a good mate of mine. Hiwever likely or not.

Like most of the vr arcades in yorkshire alone, they all advertise on facebook. If it was an issue then im dam sure facebook would pop an algorithm on that flags these.
I doubt anyone actually cares apart from you (most likely because you have had your fingers burnt before)
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kevinw729
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August 26, 2017
Will not push this further as I can see that you have placed yourself in a compromised position.

Dealing with the main point - yes a central app for finding VR arcades is a big thing at the moment - not sure if you or your friend have seen this - https://vrnish.com/ - would recommend that if he has not already he adds his name.

Could I also encourage joining the VR Arcade Association, or UKIE as they are working hard to formalise the operation process, and even looking at a reduced liability insurance deal, that some operators neglect to add to their operation charges. 

Finally to your dubious comment at the end:

...(most likely because you have had your fingers burnt before)

?
Not sure I know what you are aluding too with this off the topic comment - I know you have been trying every time to try and make this about me, ratherr than the comment - but would say @elboffor if there is something your trying to allude too, best spit it out rather than making snide comments?

https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
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