Will life and society "go back to normal" when the Pandemic is over?

RuneSR2 said:

The number of infected will rise when you increase the number of persons being tested - testing is very important to track down infected persons, but the number of infected persons may be very misleading. 

I don't necessarily disagree, but some thoughts,

I read this type of sentiment on Facebook a lot between March-May. And it seemed about right here in Texas, since we ended May with a small number of reported "infections." People were saying that most of us have probably already contracted the virus, and that if we all get tested then we'll find anti-bodies inside most, if not all, of us.

But then June arrived...

Our hospitals are filling up, and people are dying on a near daily basis. I'm not just talking about stuff I am reading; I'm talking about first-hand knowledge from friends and family that work throughout Texas hospitals.

So it begs the question, if we were all already infected, and the numbers are just high because we are getting more tests done, then how is June suddenly giving rise to increases in Hospitalization and deaths despite the fact that the Coronavirus arrived in Texas early March?

To me, the only thing more important than the number of infections and deaths, is the number of Hospitalized patients. We already have hospital bed shortages occurring. I know entire households who are afflicted as of today. And at least 1 person died that is close to my social circle (they just died over the weekend).

What I believe will become most important by December, will be the number of re-infections. There is evidence to suggest that the Covid anti-bodies only remain in our bodies for 2 months on average.

Umpa_PC said:

I don't think there will ever be an effective vaccine, best we can hope for is one that works as good as the one we have for influenza (and that is a crap vaccine) and they 'guess' which strain to develop for.

Agreed. The vaccine isn't the "cure all" by any stretch of the imagination. It just gets the most headlines because it helps keep the masses from going Full Derp (at least here in America where everyone is clearly on the brink of madness).

We will need the full trifecta to fight Covid19 and all its mutations:

• Vaccines
• Anti-Virals
• Therapeutics

But then you get all the misleading headlines and things and don't really know what information we're being fed is right or not. Like during the peak of this, they were listing all deaths as caused by covid-19, blowing up the numbers of deaths, making it look like it's the next black plague. Not saying it's true or made up, but there's a lot of fishy bs going on i'm sure. So many things aren't adding up. I'm still taking precautions though, better to be safe than sorry. Sometimes though, you have to be critical of the information you're getting and think for yourself, recently in california, they forbade 4th of july parties/gatherings, but protests are a-ok? What kind of sense does that make?

Zenbane said:

RuneSR2 said:

The number of infected will rise when you increase the number of persons being tested - testing is very important to track down infected persons, but the number of infected persons may be very misleading. 

I don't necessarily disagree, but some thoughts,

I read this type of sentiment on Facebook a lot between March-May. And it seemed about right here in Texas, since we ended May with a small number of reported "infections." People were saying that most of us have probably already contracted the virus, and that if we all get tested then we'll find anti-bodies inside most, if not all, of us.

But then June arrived...

Our hospitals are filling up, and people are dying on a near daily basis. I'm not just talking about stuff I am reading; I'm talking about first-hand knowledge from friends and family that work throughout Texas hospitals.

So it begs the question, if we were all already infected, and the numbers are just high because we are getting more tests done, then how is June suddenly giving rise to increases in Hospitalization and deaths despite the fact that the Coronavirus arrived in Texas early March?

To me, the only thing more important than the number of infections and deaths, is the number of Hospitalized patients. We already have hospital bed shortages occurring. I know entire households who are afflicted as of today. And at least 1 person died that is close to my social circle (they just died over the weekend).

What I believe will become most important by December, will be the number of re-infections. There is evidence to suggest that the Covid anti-bodies only remain in our bodies for 2 months on average.

Currently the only reinfections that the world has seen have been down to poor testing, so we'll have to wait and see.

As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a single case of someone catching it twice.

Bahamut88 said:

But then you get all the misleading headlines and things and don't really know what information we're being fed is right or not. Like during the peak of this, they were listing all deaths as caused by covid-19, blowing up the numbers of deaths, making it look like it's the next black plague. Not saying it's true or made up, but there's a lot of fishy bs going on i'm sure. So many things aren't adding up. I'm still taking precautions though, better to be safe than sorry. Sometimes though, you have to be critical of the information you're getting and think for yourself, recently in california, they forbade 4th of july parties/gatherings, but protests are a-ok? What kind of sense does that make?

The death's I'm seeing are quite real though. Received another death confirmation today. At least 2 within my own close friends/family circle. And these are people in their 30's and 40's.

snowdog said:
Currently the only reinfections that the world has seen have been down to poor testing, so we'll have to wait and see.

As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a single case of someone catching it twice.

True. We must consider that we cannot actually test for re-infection because it is illegal to intentionally infect someone with the virus. So we have to wait until they catch it again naturally.

We have measured the length of anti-bodies, and they appear to be gone after 2 months. Without the anti-bodies, there is no measurable immunity.

There was a theory doing the rounds that some people that have recovered from the thing haven't actually recovered fully. The disease stays dormant instead. Not sure if that theory holds water or not. It was a month or two ago that this got mentioned I think and I haven't heard anything about it since.

We'll have to wait and see what happens I guess.

And just when you thought things couldn't get any worse they now have cases of the Black Death in China. Happens every now and then over there though apparently. You would have thought that they would have outlawed those wet markets over there by now. :angry: