Quest Project Settings in Unreal

Thank you appreciate it. I was already following the documentation. But as I found out. Just using this document using the same project settings didn't work for me. I got jittering, couldn't even hit some steady FPS when using just three primitive objects.

There is more to it. Like AA, Forward Shading, etc.

One major point ... I can't wrap my head around this:

• How do you actually do the look development when using Unreal with Shader Model 5?
• I need to be able to convert or compile my setup to ES 3.1

But how can you make sure it will look similar?
Just by switching inside of the Unreal Editor from Shader Model 5 to ES3.1 - it makes a huge difference in the look.

Light values seem to be also different.

I am wondering how you guys handle that.

Thanks for any hints, thoughts and ideas!
appreciate it and keep rocking - cheers

The best approximation I've found so far is to set the editorview to ES3.1 mode. Some stuff will still look different on Quest so test on the Quest all the time and keep the difference in mind when viewing back on the screen in UE.

yes, I noticed that. But how the heck can you actually do the look development ... so it looks kinda the same for both Shader models? It also looks like you have to re-do the lighting because of all the different lighting values.

Or one way.. I am thinking to do it.. doing the look dev using E3.31 and after that, I make the proper adjustments in the post process volume for Shader Model 5?

I am also curious about materials?
I mean.. I haven't seen any tutorials how you use shaders and materials when using E3.31?

I am assuming you just use the standard Unreal Materials to create shaders... and when deploying to E3.31 all the materials will be compiled for OpenGL Sahders, right?

I just wish there would be a library of shader's ... something like Substance Source has.. you can use specifically for E3.31. For example, Emissive Light does not work when using E3.31...  soo.. what's the workaorund?

Do you know any place, any forum, website, resources that has more information specifically for that?

I am just super pumped about the Quest. I love the Quest and I know that's the future.
Super nice to have no cables and to have your own console system. When CPU's and GPU's will get stronger.. this is the way to go.

Love it.. really love what Oculus did with the Quest. It's amazing.
Just wish I would find more practical tutorials for developers... to make it easier for me to create content for the Quest.

Thank you so much for any further little help, hints, tips and tricks.
Very much appreciated, keep rocking!
cheers 

Thank you so much for your response, and also the video. The basics are clear. Also the theory.

What I am confused right now is the fact, that when using Unreal and switching to the ES3.1 Shader Model - only one light-type seems to be supported. And that is a Direct Light.

Questions #1:
Are Spherical Lights, Rectangular Lights and Spot Lights not supported?
Also no support for the Sun & Sky System that was integrated with Unreal 4.24?

Question #2:
Light values seem to be different and of course, the Shaders also look totoally different.
I am not able to find a documentation about the materials. Meaning, what's supported and working, what is not?

For example, PBR Shaders... are they supported or not?
Difuse
Reflection
Roughness
Metallic
Emissive
etc.

For me, the most imnportant part is the look development. I am able to deploy simple geometry. But when working with the shading and lighting using the ES3.1 Models instead of Shader Model 5 (by default when using Unreal) - I just can't get the look what I want, because I can't control the materials like I can when using Shader Model 5.

In terms of baking:
I would like to setup my entire level inside of Unreal. Using the Unreal lights, and the Unreal Materials.
But like I said. I can't target a specific look, because I can't see what am I doing when using ES3.1

It appears to me, when using ES3.1 it's not real time.

That's what I am really curious about. I've never seen any tutorial, or anybody else working inside of Unreal using ES3.1. And I can't find any answers to this specific topic.

Thank you so much for your posts, hints and infos. I really do appreciate that.
I hope I could somehow explain where I'm stuck.

happy developing and till later,
cheers 

So here is my problem: 

Simple Setup in Unreal.

• First screenshot shows the Preview when using ES3.1
• Second image shows Preview when ES3.1 is turned off and Shader Model 5 is being used (default)

A Rect Light doesn't seem to be supported at all. Even by cranking up the Light Intensity. The scene stays black.

Questions:

• So are the regular lights for ES3.1 not supported, right?

If I bake inside of 3dsmax/Vray - I still need add a light to the scene. Otherwise the Light-Scene stays black as well.

• How do you usually approach that?

but how can you do the lighting, if you have to build them?
and you don't even see anything after placing the lights?

kinda like old school.. offline ray tracing?
drag a light.. then press build ... and see what it does?

so there is no real time support for this?