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rmzalbar's avatar
rmzalbar
Expert Protege
17 days ago

V81 user interface problems (one severe)

I'm reporting three problems with v81 (in-headset bug reports have also been generated.)

  1. First, and most important, settings options related to Passthrough have all been removed - specifically the ability to disable double-tap to passthrough, as well as the ability to disable the passthrough mode altogether. Previously, these options were available in the Environment menu.

    We run VR arena games and players touching their headsets accidentally during play is causing them to drop out of VR, requiring a game stoppage and intervention, and sometimes causing them to disconnect from the game altogether. This is unacceptable and we require a solution or we'll need to proceed with alternative hardware. Fortunately it's early days for us so switching to something more consistent is still a good option.

  2. When any app is launched, a notification toast appears and remains for at least 10 seconds: "Use nearby roomscale guardian? You can switch to a nearby roomscale guardian or resume where you are. Press meta button for options."

    This toast notification is pestering and useless, as pressing the meta button merely summons the quick menu as usual. Once an app is launched, we should be able to turn our full attention to the opening moments of the app, not a distracting and irrelevant notification. Get rid of it.

  3. Switching to passthrough via doubletap or other means when an app is running (on purpose OR OTHERWISE, SEE ITEM 1) is causing a persistent notification that the app is still running in the background with an offer to resume, and cannot be dismissed.

    When someone drops to passthrough, they want to be able to see. Bringing up the interface, notifications, or any other view-blocking UI elements is invasive, irritating, and in the case of the full-size interface being summoned, sometimes even dangerous (note the arena situation in point 1.) If we wanted to resume or see the interface, we would press the Meta button. I understand you're afraid somebody somewhere might not understand something on day 1, but this is no justification for punishing all of the rest of us in their daily use without our permission or any control over it.

I love and appreciate your work and what you guys and girls have created, please don't take the above personally.

Thank you.

2 Replies

  • steve_40's avatar
    steve_40
    Trustee
    17 days ago

    Very well-articulated and I fully agree that these are major nuisances introduced with v81.

    Point No.1: we should be given the option to disable double-taping to enter passthrough, or better still, an option to disable double-tap on a per-app basis would be great. That way, we could have double-tap enabled for all apps EXCEPT for that one app where double-tapping is an inconvenience.

    Point No. 2: this toast is completely stupid. When I tried to set a boundary in my small room, it told me my room was too small and recommended that I use a stationary boundary. I was content with that. So why, every time I open an app in the same small room, does it keep asking me if I want to switch to roomscale? The headset should be able to detect/remember that I am in my small room and automatically stay in stationary mode instead of switching to roomscale. Also annoying, is that if I am using AirLink, this toast still appears, even though we can no longer use the Meta button while in AirLink/QuestLink, it is only used to re-centre the HMD.

    Point No. 3: the "app is still running in the background" message does not appear if you enter passthrough using the icon on the menu bar, so I don't understand why such a message is necessary if you double-tap the headset. Quest headsets have been around for many years now, so why do we suddenly need a pop-up warning message that we never had before?

    We should at least be given the option of disabling such pop-up warnings.

  • sKnails's avatar
    sKnails
    Honored Guest
    16 days ago

    Like steve_40 said, well-articulated.  I am also experiencing issues with double-tap. I play Eleven Table Tennis and games will pause mid-rally. Not only is it disruptive to the game, it's unfair to my opponent. I would love to see this fixed asap.