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Up and Coming
July 11, 2014
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Rifting while high/stoned

Ok so drugs are bad, dont do it, but if anyone has tried the rift while high, share here, please. I am wondering if drugs enchance presence?? I know Im going to try and smoke a big one and play hl2 when I get my cv1 (I have not tried a rift or any vr device yet apart from youtube videos on a tablet with lenses from binoculars and when I am high I get more immersed)

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    Up and Coming
    July 11, 2014
    hahaha good question. I saw this same discussion on the subreddit not to long ago

    http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/29fym6/marijuana_oculus_rift_to_heighten_presence/
    Up and Coming
    July 11, 2014
    Drunk while playing Truck Simulator :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMT98U_iilY
    Rift 3d models available here : viewtopic.php?t=1514
    Participant
    July 12, 2014
    I tried the Rift with weed, LSD, other psychedelics, Ketamine and various combinations of all these, and I could try it with DMT, Salvia and other stuff.

    Weed is a great natural remedy against nausea, but VR-nausea is a bit different.
    It definetely enhances presence/immersion if used right, the same way it enhances immersion if you play on a normal screen/tv.

    BTW: "drugs" aren't bad, and if you know what you are doing, with proper education, then there's no reason NOT to do them in moderation.
    Up and Coming
    July 12, 2014
    "MannyLectro" wrote:
    Drunk while playing Truck Simulator :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMT98U_iilY

    Heh 11:00: "Us Americans, we live in America"
    No doubt VR is the future of driver training, especially what not to do.

    Peejle
    Up and Coming
    July 12, 2014
    "goofy" wrote:
    I tried the Rift with weed, LSD, other psychedelics, Ketamine and various combinations of all these, and I could try it with DMT, Salvia and other stuff.

    Weed is a great natural remedy against nausea, but VR-nausea is a bit different.
    It definetely enhances presence/immersion if used right, the same way it enhances immersion if you play on a normal screen/tv.

    BTW: "drugs" aren't bad, and if you know what you are doing, with proper education, then there's no reason NOT to do them in moderation.


    hahaha

    i cant imagine what it would be like to experience VR while trippin balls on hardcore psychedelics.

    ganja yea (although I would advise against it on first time use) LSD and shroom yea but very powerful celestial fungus DMT and Salvia are not typically what you would call recreational. they more like spiritual teachers. DMT in particular especially if you go the ayahuasca brew method. you better have a very good reason, question/inquiry prepared before you go on that journey....

    i agree with you that education/awareness of drugs is more important then just saying "drugs are bad" but moderation is key theres also the matter of toxicity and the issue of legality

    plus once you alter your mind there is no un-altering it there is no going back. the brain is surprising very malleable a la neuroplasticity. mind altering drugs literally alter your mind as if re-wiring connections altering the code changing your perception altering your priorities thus is the path towards addiction. especially if the drug sends erroneous signals across your mesolimbic pathway artificially reinforcing that reward status.

    with powerful long lasting psychedelics always ALWAYS error on the side of caution and have a sane sitter watch your back capable of comforting you should you slip into depths of darkness despair and panic.

    also i love the stoned ape theory :D
    Up and Coming
    July 12, 2014
    "goofy" wrote:
    BTW: "drugs" aren't bad, and if you know what you are doing, with proper education, then there's no reason NOT to do them in moderation.


    thankyou for that

    "Cato the Elder" - The "voice of reason" in the Republican Roman Senate
    ;)
    I preordered a DK2 in April, from Australia.. ..and Im still completely sane!! ;P
    Up and Coming
    July 12, 2014
    "Gygax" wrote:
    "goofy" wrote:
    BTW: "drugs" aren't bad, and if you know what you are doing, with proper education, then there's no reason NOT to do them in moderation.


    thankyou for that

    "Cato the Elder" - The "voice of reason" in the Republican Roman Senate
    ;)


    :lol:
    Up and Coming
    July 12, 2014
    Lsd or mushrooms then your asking for bad times weed on the other hand may be okay. If you smoke alot probably not so bad, if your a weekend warrior may be nauseating.
    Participant
    July 12, 2014
    "cubytes" wrote:
    "goofy" wrote:
    ...


    hahaha

    i cant imagine what it would be like to experience VR while trippin balls on hardcore psychedelics.

    ganja yea (although I would advise against it on first time use) LSD and shroom yea but very powerful celestial fungus DMT and Salvia are not typically what you would call recreational. they more like spiritual teachers. DMT in particular especially if you go the ayahuasca brew method. you better have a very good reason, question/inquiry prepared before you go on that journey....

    i agree with you that education/awareness of drugs is more important then just saying "drugs are bad" but moderation is key theres also the matter of toxicity and the issue of legality

    plus once you alter your mind there is no un-altering it there is no going back. the brain is surprising very malleable a la neuroplasticity. mind altering drugs literally alter your mind as if re-wiring connections altering the code changing your perception altering your priorities thus is the path towards addiction. especially if the drug sends erroneous signals across your mesolimbic pathway artificially reinforcing that reward status.

    with powerful long lasting psychedelics always ALWAYS error on the side of caution and have a sane sitter watch your back capable of comforting you should you slip into depths of darkness despair and panic.

    also i love the stoned ape theory :D


    I never had a full gaming/"watching" session in the rift on psychedelics, I just tried it for a short time to see what it's like.
    It's not as crazy as one thinks it is, maybe that changes with the DK2.

    What do you mean with "celestial fungus" ?
    And you are wrong, ALL drugs CAN be used recreationally.
    I like to use psychedelics and dissociatives (ketamine cures depression and reliefs social anxiety for weeks in a single dose less-than-treshold dose, has no side effects and has more research behind it than any other antidepressive medication) as powerful exploring/healing tools, but also for recreation purposes.
    DMT is purely recreational when smoked, ayahuasca is what can do the healing.
    Salvia can be used for recreation but it's not enjoyable for everyone.
    I think you mistake Salvia with "getting pushed by your friends to try a way too strong 100X extract of salvia for the first time and you dont even know what you just smoked", which explains those youtube videos.

    I used many different psychedelics for more than 100 times and I ALWAYS tripped alone.
    While a sitter makes a lot of sense for newbie users, i's not absolutely neccesary.

    plus once you alter your mind there is no un-altering it there is no going back

    Well, the mind get's altered every second of your life.
    New neuronal connections are made, old ones die off whatever you do.
    Smartphones and using the internet alter the reward system in the same way amphetamines/cocaine does.
    It's an ongoing process, you can't say "once you did drugs and they altered your mind, there's no way to regain your old self".
    Many Hardcore drug addicts (heroin, methamphetamine, nicotine, GABAergics can be cured by a single ibogaine dose for example. Methadon is just to get people addicted on another drug to make money of it.

    I think VR-sickness has other receptors/pathways involved than the "normal" nausea which can be cured by dopamine d2 antagonists/ 5ht3a antagonists / THC/CBD/CBN.
    The "VR sickness" is more like a tobacco flash.
    Feeling hot, cold sweat, feeling dizzy and confused senses.
    Up and Coming
    July 12, 2014
    I used to roll on X (or "molly"! Tsk. Kids these days) while playing Wipeout 2097 on the PS with my mate Chris. My god the rushes, the exhilaration. Back then the stuff was pure MDMA, maybe cut with some pure speed for extra nutso fun. These days you don't know what you're getting, could be K, MDA, rat poison. Man I miss the 80s. If I could find decent X again (note to the spooks - I'm not looking, just stating an opinion) the Rift would be a hardcore buzz upgrade. The first Tomb Raider (again on the PS1) made me shit myself when the T Rex first appeared, imagine that pants-browning moment in VR?