The Index thread (please keep to subject)

Seems like Shadowmask72 likes the finger tracking ;) And the game is starting to look beyond amazing:

https://youtu.be/iYtI6nu2nTk

- and here's the official trailer in case some haven't noticed the game. (The game's fully funded on Kickstarter, but until October 2nd you can still support the devs.)

https://youtu.be/VvhN-0gNQ5A

Like the style but I fear, like Technolust its going to be an empty shell of a world. I see you can only land in specific points.

Luciferous said:

Like the style but I fear, like Technolust its going to be an empty shell of a world. I see you can only land in specific points.

The safe road is of course to wait for reviews - the game will probably need another year to be ready (expected launch autumn 2020). I'm not yet a backer, but still have some days to become one...  

Or you can sponsor such games on principle, and not worry so much about always getting "the greatest game in the world" in return. I mean it's not like the big developer houses are all lining up to make VR games for us.

I backed the original Technolust. ill buy it but I just  got burned in Kickstarter and they couldn’t give a damn. Never backing anything else through them again.

Gossip o' the week  o:)

https://youtu.be/7W-XixqrKeM

Some dude upgraded from GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 Super - and wasn't exactly happy for the VR performance results: "It seems VR is less about FPS boosts and more binary will it run at a given hz. So hopefully this is somewhat helpful you all out there."

System:
Processor: i7-7700k (4.6 ghz)
Memory: 16GB
Video cards: Evga GTX 1080 FTW and Evga RTX 2080 Super Ultra
HD: Everything on SSD
HMD: Index running all games at 100% res (2016 x 2240 per eye)

Let's take a look at performance:

No Man's Sky

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On a 1080 at 90 hz
Frame time: 14.9 ms
Reprojection: 50%
Fps: 45

On a 2080 Super (Ultra) at 90 hz
Frame time: 11.2 ms
Reprojection: 50%
Fps: 45

In 90 Hz no observable differences - both got 45 fps. 120 Hz was better though, as the 2080 was better at reaching 60 fps:

On a 1080 at 120 hz
Frame time: 14.9 ms
Reprojection: ~70%
Fps: 42

On a 2080 at 120 hz
Frame time: 12.8
Reprojection: 50%
Fps: 60

Here the 2080 Super did mange to get 43% more performance - but still not great, 43% more is kinda low in my book (in pancake games with vsync deactivated 2080 Super is about 60% faster than GTX 1080 in 4K and 43% faster in 2K - more here: https://forums.oculusvr.com/community/discussion/comment/698177#Comment_698177 - kinda makes you wonder if 2K pancake results translate better to VR performance than 4K results... At least for HMDs using resolutions below 4K including Index). 

Until You Fall

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On a 1080 at 90 hz
Frame time: 7.6 ms
Reprojection: 0%
Fps: 90

Perfect results - and it can't get better using 2080 Super (but of course you may be able to increase ss more, remember these results are all Index ss 100%):

On a 2080 at 90 hz
Frame time: 7.8 ms
Reprojection: 0%
Fps: 90

Now, maybe there's more benefit from the 2080 Super in 120 hz in Until You Fall?

On a 1080 at 120 hz
Frame time: 7.9 ms
Reprojection: 50%
Fps: 60

Here the 1080 can only achieve 60 fps - unfortunately so can the 2080 Super, because that card isn't 100% faster than 1080 and therefore can't reach the magic 120 fps either:

On a 2080 at 120 hz
Frame time: 7.9 ms
Reprojection: 50%
Fps: 60

In Surv1v3 similar trends were observed - quote "I also tested Surv1v3 and found little change oddly." (specific results were not provided). 

The take home message may again be that you'll need a video card which is minimum 100% faster than your current video card to see major improvements in VR  games (to be sure that 45 fps turn into 90, and/or 60 fps turn into 120). That said of course you may find benefits upgrading to a video card which is less than 100% faster by being able to increase ss more and maybe get better fps in some games, like when using 120 Hz. 

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/dbihma/gtx_1080_vs_rtx_2080_super_comparison_gains_for_vr/

This was just posted on Index Reddit - should be some sort of successor to "Black and White" - looks interesting:

Black and White, a name from the distant past, look at this demo from Teddy0k back in 2013 in the DK1 days. A man ahead of his time. Actually i think his looks better :)

https://forums.oculusvr.com/community/discussion/comment/52288#Comment_52288

Just saw this post - quite sure I'd be in the same boat if I got the Quest even for Rift-games:


Even though I do like some games on the CV1, I really don't play those games anymore and always end up using the Index, it's just miles ahead of the CV1. Also had some fun perfecting column corrections on the Index last night - it's really perfect now, no SDE, great fov, perfect tracking - hard to see where I'd find time to use another hmd, unless Asgard's Wrath or Stormland really need it - already don't have enough time to watch my Netflix shows, sigh.