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November 18, 2025
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This corporation is getting ridiculous. Bring back Home Environments. Stop.

I want to start by saying the micro instant the Valve Steam Frame is released, I will be immediately throwing my Oculus Quest 2, and 3 in the garbage as hard as I can. I cannot stand this nonsense anymore. I do not want to even sell it for the hundred bucks I can make off of it, because I know Facebook will make way more money collecting the intimate, personal data through the inside-out tracking cameras of the next poor sucker that uses one of these things. Facebook has done nothing but shoot itself in the foot over and over and over, month after month with absolute zero public favor as a result. Besides the VR Youtubers glazing and reaching as hard as possible to find a teeny tiny positive thing with each quest DownDating. (The opposite of updating) This is probably something I'm going to be banned for, but I do not care. My data being deleted from Facebook will be an absolute win. I have loved this corporation so much for its VR hardware from Palmer Luckey, and software for the first 4 years of its existence. Then it went to garbage. Removing home environments and forcing users to constantly use their headset at full tilt (100% GPU/CPU usage) at all times. This is the exact definition of bloatware. The new homes look horrible, I don't want a bunch of fake NPC's that cosplay losers, that jump around my forced meta horizons slop environment. Why would you undo all that progress making those environments, they were literally the only cool thing left. This is clearly malicious, what are you even gaining from doing this? While I'm here, i'm going to mention the state of Oculus Link. There is no oculus link anymore. it is completely non functional, its been 3 years of the exact same loop. One week it will work flawlessly, then after a 'meta link' update, it goes right back to having zero functionality. It will finally work for no reason, then like magic clockwork, an 'update' comes out, and it no longer connects, no longer has audio, no longer has depth perception. This is clearly a deliberate method to push PCVR players away from high fidelity pc titles, into their standalone horizons slop. I have put so much god forsaken money into this company through 99% ad revenue and personal data collection, and about 1% transactions and purchases. I've put about a thousand+ dollars into this to be abandoned and forgotten. Facebook no longer allows support for their product. Yes. I am not fabricating anything. If you managed to finally dive through the hoops to get to the Serial Number selection screen, it will not accept your number. It doesn't matter what it is, they will pretend they cannot find your box, or your headset, or your controllers and selecting "I don't have a device or serial number" will prompt you to a screen saying "we cannot help users without devices at this time". Genius strategy!! Do absolutely nothing to improve your company, actually, do the opposite. Completely ruin your company over the course of 2 years, completely disable any support for quests, boom profit.

TLDR. I will be immediately switching to the Valve Steam Frame the micro-second it drops and throwing away all my Oculus Quests in the garbage due to a complete failure, lack of trying, and constant malicious attempts to screw the Quest users over at every possible turn. Stop updating, or do it right.

Expect the automatic bot comment from Facebook to be the first comment, using the perfect words to get you to shut up. Actions speak louder than an automated bots words, act like normal people for 20 minutes.

What are your thoughts, be so for real. Assume anybody shooting this down with zero thought is a metabot. This is inexcusable. Give me genuine reasons to appreciate what this has become. With technical explanations. This is genuinely horrible and you've lost me and thousands of others.

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steve40
Honored Contributor
November 18, 2025

Metabot here *cough* *cough* /s. FWIW, I have been using my Quest 3 for about 6 months, and Link has worked pretty much flawlessly for all that time, with perhaps one or two minor niggles 🤷‍♂️. As far as your definition of "bloatware" goes, I would argue that REMOVING the virtual environments would actually count as the exact opposite of "bloating" the software 😆. But yes, most of us miss them, regardless. Also, my Q3 certainly does not run at 100% GPU/CPU. The internal fan hardly ever kicks up a fuss, and when it does (usually straight after a software update or game crash), a simple reboot always fixes it 🤷‍♂️. I am now going to go back and enjoy playing Elite Dangerous using AirLink on my Q3 and look forward to reading your future rants when the Steam Frame fails to meet your expectations 😁. Yours truly, your friendly Metabot 🙃.

Honored Contributor
November 19, 2025

steve_40 I second that. How do the haters spend so much time complaining about something (going by some of the extreme examples they give) that they probably don't even own or never did.? 😁

New Participant
November 19, 2025

I HATE the DownDating ruining my Quest 2. Recently my headset asked me to set a passcode on a 3x3 matrix grid, when I turned it back on the matrix grid had somehow changed into a rectangle-ish shape with pointy ends

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This is the WORST company ever created because they actually HATE the people buying their products.

Honored Contributor
November 19, 2025

This isn't a new issue, unfortunately. Just back up, factory reset and set a new password. It doesn't "ask you" to set a pass code on a grid pattern, it is one of the options, it's not necessary to actually do it. After you factory reset just use a standard password. 

New Participant
August 8, 2026

Ive tested this with two quest 3s,s one sat on v78 with root, debloated and somehow its fixed the ram issues and is very stable. The other however is on 2.5. This is what ive found ive lost:

-custom home environments

-new ui is slop garbage, the loading ui lags and sometimes hangs even after the games loaded. You can hear it. wanna go back to the old menu? Your gonna need root. Otherwise every reboot changes the ui back to the new one.

-blocking disabling of updater. Sorry but this ones a big nono for me. Theyve ruined one of my headsets to the point its barely useable imho. And its sad being forced into having more bugs and limits

-locking of android settings... like cmon now its just ridiculous at this point having to use a workaround to open SETTINGS.

 

its been great while it lasted and will say the hardware is good. Great. Fansatic. Price to performance its the best android xr device period. But the software severly lets it down. Further limiting and shoving horizon worlds down our throats is just not my cup of tea and i never expected such a dramatic shift so quick when i bought them. Glad i left one staying on v78 with no meta account or any meta stuff at this point,